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Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter
BREITBART ^ | May 13, 2008

Posted on 05/13/2008 5:45:59 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday.

The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.

As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.

"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this," he wrote in the letter written on January 3, 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, cited by The Guardian newspaper.

The German-language letter is being sold Thursday by Bloomsbury Auctions in Mayfair after being in a private collection for more than 50 years, said the auction house's managing director Rupert Powell.

In it, the renowned scientist, who declined an invitation to become Israel's second president, rejected the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people.

"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions," he said.

"And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people."

And he added: "As far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."

Previously the great scientist's comments on religion -- such as "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -- have been the subject of much debate, used notably to back up arguments in favour of faith.

Powell said the letter being sold this week gave a clear reflection of Einstein's real thoughts on the subject. "He's fairly unequivocal as to what he's saying. There's no beating about the bush," he told AFP.


TOPICS: Catholic; Judaism; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: alberteinstein; antitheism; einstein; whereisyourgodnow
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To: stuartcr
I can’t imagine God wanting to be feared. As for should be, I think that would be up to the individual and his beliefs.

God is a righteous judge and He will condemn all who are found guilty of sin. That condemnation is either eternal punishment or eternal destruction. And you don't think He should or wants to be feared?

81 posted on 05/14/2008 7:30:38 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: DannyTN; stuartcr
Only in the same way that a parent want's a child to fear punishment to avoid doing something that could be injurious to the child or others or that is wrong.

Ultimately, God wants our love not our fear.

I'd say that without being born again the only feeling left for a person to have for God is fear because judgement is coming. If one is born again then his relationship with God has changed to one where we say "abba father". Yet even a Daddy will put a hurt on us if we are way out of line. But he won't destroy us.

82 posted on 05/14/2008 7:44:51 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: stuartcr
How one believes varies by religious faith.
Of course my examples are simplifications but in general: Muslims believe that one must adhere to the Five Pillars of Wisdom, Jews believe that one draws closer to God through the Law, Roman Catholic believe that one comes close to God through the Church, and Protestants believe that one draws close to God through a personal relationship with Jesus.
What one believes are the specific “articles of faith” that are unique to each faith.
83 posted on 05/14/2008 8:46:01 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: DannyTN

Well, we certainly do have different responses and ideas for what generates them.


84 posted on 05/14/2008 8:46:32 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: DannyTN

I suppose that is one way to look at it, if one believes that God does punish people.


85 posted on 05/14/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: DungeonMaster

I disagree.


86 posted on 05/14/2008 8:48:49 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: quadrant

Right, and each faith is unique.


87 posted on 05/14/2008 8:50:09 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr

You are correct, but since each is unique, only one may be true.


88 posted on 05/14/2008 9:05:40 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: quadrant

I disagree with that, as I believe with God, anything is possible.


89 posted on 05/14/2008 9:12:14 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr

I agree that with God anything is possible but what has He said that He would do?


90 posted on 05/14/2008 9:51:07 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: quadrant

That would be relative to a person’s beliefs, wouldn’t it?


91 posted on 05/14/2008 10:01:27 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
An omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God is not (indeed, cannot be) relative to the beliefs of fallible and finite humans.
92 posted on 05/14/2008 10:43:43 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: quadrant

My response meant, that what He said He would do, would be relative to a person’s belief. This means that what a person believes God had said or would do, would be relative to what one believes. ie, a Christian would believe he interpreted what God said and did as a Christian, a Hindu as a Hindu, Muslim, Jew, etc. I apologise if my response was not clear.


93 posted on 05/14/2008 11:01:12 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
Granted that if one reads the cannons of different religions, one can read of different promises by “God”. Many of these promises are contradictory and one one can be true.
94 posted on 05/14/2008 7:29:04 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: stuartcr
I don’t know how Einstein really believed.

If you are familiar with monist literature (think Ernst Haeckel) and the characteristic ways that monists babble about Goethe, Spinoza, and 'the unity of nature', you'll instantly recognize Einstein as a monist.

95 posted on 05/15/2008 12:29:24 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: quadrant

Of the ones that are contradictory and affect us humans in a physical/provable manner, as opposed to the more ethereal, spiritual/supernatural promises, it might be better to qualify the statement that only one can be true at a time. Say two religions promised a ‘chosen land’ in the same place, we may find in past or future history, that indeed, those 2 different group did occupy that land, but at different times or peacefully co-existed, even if not mentioned in eithers’ writings. As for the supernatural stuff that religions may promise, like what may happen after death, they don’t even count, as no one has anyway of knowing if indeed they are contradictory, or even exist.


96 posted on 05/15/2008 6:05:21 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I am not familiar with monist literature.


97 posted on 05/15/2008 6:06:19 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
Only one promise can be true, as truth by itself is pure and undiluted. As the promises of religion transcend time and space, no one “knows” if the eternal promises of religion are true with mathematical certainty. To subject the spiritual promises of a religious faith to a standard of mathematical certainty is absurd. Spiritual promises operate outside the realm of the material and cannot be compared. To do so betrays a limited and unimaginative mind.
No two groups with an exclusive claim based on a religious revelation can occupy the same plot of land at the same time. They may occupy the land during different periods in history but not during the same period. Which group occupies the land at any given period will depend on a constellation (or concatenation) of events that are too numerous to mention here.
98 posted on 05/15/2008 8:36:18 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: quadrant

You don’t believe that God could make more than one promise true?

Besides, we’re talking about religions that have been created by man and promises read from a book. We don’t even know, or have any way of knowing/proving that God even did make any promises. It’s all based on faith...which is different for different people.


99 posted on 05/15/2008 8:46:28 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr

How do you know that religious faith was created by man? What are your standards of proof? Do you deny the possibility of Divine revelation?


100 posted on 05/15/2008 4:50:33 PM PDT by quadrant
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