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To: SkyPilot
Have you found the doctor who ‘took care’ of some of Joe's illegitimate impregnations? It is a most ghastly footnote on the origins of this Christian wannabe cult.
2,773 posted on 07/19/2008 7:34:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

That was Doctor Bennett...


2,775 posted on 07/19/2008 7:47:36 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MHGinTN

In addition to marrying already-pregnant women, there is some evidence that abortion was practiced in Nauvoo...

LDS Elder Ebenezer Robinson testified that Hyrum Smith “instructed me in Nov or Dec 1843 to make a selection of some young woman and he would seal her to me, and I should take her home,” he recalled, “and if she should have an offspring give out word that she had a husband, an Elder, who had gone on a foreign mission.” Possibly referring to a secluded birthplace, or conceivably to abortion, Robinson spoke of “a place appointed in Iowa, 12 or 18 miles from Nauvoo to send female victims to his polygamous births.”
- Ebenezer Robinson to Jason W. Briggs, Jan. 28, 1880, LDS archives. On December 29, 1873, Ebenezer and Angeline Robinson signed an affidavit saying that Hyrum Smith had come to their house in the fall of 1843 to teach them the doctrine of polygamy.

Hyrum Smith also documented Nauvoo abortions, and interestingly enough, blamed it on a doctor and close associate of Joseph Smith. Hyrum testified that Dr. Bennett was propositioning women in a similar fashion to Joseph Smith. “[Dr. Bennett] endeavored to seduce them, and accomplished his designs by saying it was right; that it was one of the mysteries of God, which was to be revealed when the people was strong enough in faith to bear such mysteries—that it was perfectly right to have illicit intercourse with females, providing no one knew it but themselves, vehemently trying them from day to day, to yield to his passions, bringing witnesses of his own clan to testify that there were such revelations and such commandments, and that they were of God; also stating that he would be responsible for their sins, if there were any, and that he would give them medicine to produce abortions, provided they should become pregnant.”
- Affidavit of Hyrum Smith. Official History of the Church, Vol. 5, p.71

Pretend Marriages in Case of Pregnancy
According to church historian Andrew Jenson, Sarah Ann Whitney became the seventh plural wife of Joseph Smith, and the story of his marriage to her illustrates another strategy. She disguised her relationship to the prophet by pretending to marry Joseph Corodon Kingsbury on April 29, 1843. In his autobiography Kingsbury wrote: “I according to Pres. Joseph Smith & Council & others agreed to stand by Sarah Ann Whitney as though I was supposed to be her husband and [participated in] a pretended marriage for the purpose of . . . Bringing about the purposes of God in these last days . . .”
- Elder Joseph Kingsbury, “History of Joseph Kingsbury Written by His Own Hand,” page 5, Utah State Historical Society

If Not Sex, What Was Joseph Smith Doing?

Most of Smith’s plural wives boarded with other families, whom he visited periodically. His secretary, William Clayton, recorded one such visit to young Almera Johnson on May 16, 1843: “Prest. Joseph and I went to B[enjamin] F. Johnsons to sleep.” Johnson himself later noted that on this visit Smith stayed with Almera “as man and wife” and “occupied the same room and bed with my sister, that the previous month he had occupied with the daughter of the late Bishop Partridge as his wife.” Almera Johnson also confirmed her secret marriage to Joseph Smith: “I lived with the prophet Joseph as his wife and he visited me at the home of my brother Benjamin F.”

While in hiding, Joseph Smith wrote a revealing letter which he addressed to her parents, Newel and Elizabeth Whitney, inviting them to bring their daughter to visit him “just back of Brother Hyrums farm.” He advised Brother Whitney to “come a little a head and knock at the south East corner of the house at the window.” He assured them, especially Sarah Ann, that “it is the will of God that you should comfort me now.” He stressed the need for care “to find out when Emma comes,” but “when she is not here, there is the most perfect saftey.” The prophet warned them to “burn this letter as soon as you read it” and “keep all locked up in your breasts.” In closing he admonished, “I think Emma won’t come to night if she dont, dont fail to come tonight.”
- http://www.xmission.com/%7Eresearch/family/strange.htm

Joseph Smith Promised to Cover for Polgamy Pregnancies

Joseph Smith taught the “Law of Celestial Marriage” to his close friend and secretary, William Clayton. When the pregnancy of William Clayton’s first plural wife threatened to expose them, the prophet Joseph Smith advised Clayton to “just keep her at home and brook it and if they raise trouble about it and bring you before me I will give you an awful scourging and probably cut you off from the church and then I will baptize you and set you ahead as good as ever.”
- William Clayton journal, Oct. 19, 1843.

Read more here:

http://www.i4m.com/think/joseph-smith-polygamy.htm


2,776 posted on 07/19/2008 7:50:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MHGinTN; Elsie; Reno232; greyfoxx39; AnalogReigns; Godzilla; Zakeet; metmom; Tennessee Nana
Have you found the doctor who ‘took care’ of some of Joe's illegitimate impregnations? It is a most ghastly footnote on the origins of this Christian wannabe cult.

No, but send that link to Reno232 please.

And just to show how disingenuous your post could be perceived, I'll make a challenge to you on just one of your points. You claim that Joseph Smith had sex w/ over 29 women. Please provide links w/ irrefutable evidence that Joseph Smith had SEX w/ over 29 women. If you can provide irrefutable evidence that that is so, i.e. babies, DNA, etc., I will leave the board never to return. However, if you cannot, you agree to leave the board never to return. Deal? ..........Reno 232

I'll send him the links to the "wives" (read: conquests) of Joe Smith.

The women diddled by Joe.

More.....

Emma Hale Fannie Alger Lucinda Pendleton Morgan Harris Louisa Beaman Zina Diantha Huntington Jacobs Prescindia Huntington Buell Agnes Moulton Coolbrith Smith Sylvia Porter Sessions Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner Patty Bartlett Sessions Nancy Marinda Johnson Hyde Elizabeth Davis Goldsmith Brackenbury Durfee Sarah Maryetta Kingsley Cleveland Delcena Johnson Sherman Eliza Roxey Snow Sarah Ann Whitney Martha McBride Ruth Daggett Vose Sayers Flora Ann Woodworth Emily Dow Partridge Eliza Maria Partridge Almera Woodward Johnson Lucy Walker Sarah Lawrence Maria Lawrence Helen Mar Kimball Elvira Annie Cowles Rhoda Richards Desdemona Wadsworth Fullmer Hannah Ells Olive Grey Frost Melissa Lott Nancy Mariah Winchester Fanny Young Murray

Still more.....

There is substantial evidence to show that Joseph Smith was sealed to the wives of other men. This occurred while the men were still legally married to their wives. Sometimes these second marriages even occurred outside the presence of their husbands.

And....more....

Would you share your wife with the Prophet?

Lot's more.......

The Wacky World of Joseph Smith

Whoops! Looks like some sex was going on here!

Faithful Mormon Melissa Lott (Smith Willes) testified that she had been Joseph's wife "in very deed." (Affidavit of Melissa Willes, 3 Aug. 1893, Temple Lot case, 98, 105; Foster, Religion and Sexuality, 156.) - In a court affidavit, faithful Mormon Joseph Noble wrote that Joseph told him he had spent the night with Louisa Beaman. (Temple Lot Case, 427) - Emily D. Partridge (Smith Young) said she "roomed" with Joseph the night following her marriage to him and said that she had "carnal intercourse" with him. (Temple Lot case (complete transcript), 364, 367, 384; see Foster, Religion and Sexuality, 15.)

"In total, 13 faithful latter-day saint women who were married to Joseph Smith swore court affidavits that they had sexual relations with him."

Or.....Reno.....do you want to claim that he just "married" these women because he had such a BIG heart and only wanted to "take care" of them......in a "grandfather" kind of way?

2,784 posted on 07/20/2008 3:32:02 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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