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Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig
I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.
For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.
Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.
We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).
When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.
Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.
In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.
Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.
Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.
So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.
I don’t mind reading up on things that I don’t know about. I am a Catholic & just would like my deceased family left alone. But I am not bashing Mormons. I have a problem with any person who has sex with minors & practices polygamy where my tax dollars have to pay for their family. Be it FLDS or Muslims. Its not fair & its illegal. I do keep an open mind to reading about any religion so please continue the threads. Thanks!
You are correct, regardless of the religion or lack thereof, the father/husband is the number one suspect, if something bad happens to a child or a spouse. The reason you cited is why they are the suspect.
That is a common internet problem. It is not specific to your particular issue.
The only effective response you can mount is to:
1) Report all abusive posts to the moderator.
2) Reply to the post and refute the allegations.
3) Start your own website where you can moderate the posts.
By the way, most people just weed through the false posts and ignore them. So you are not being shouted down. Your views get heard and registered when you post them. Actively proselytizing your faith is not appropriate to the mission of this site. Such a response will probably get the moderators cracking down on you.
If you have no opinion on a subject you have no basis to judge what is bigotry and what is truth.
I fully support your right to post anything you wish about
mormonism or any other religious belief. I’m with you 100%.
I am also for the free expression of FReepers who disagree
to post their opinions also. I’m with them 100%.
I am against attacks against individual posters, simply
because they hold a differing opinion. I have seen mormons
do this as often as non-mormons. So while you are “hosing
down the pig, be sure you point the hose in all directions.
best,
ampu
“People were happy young people were murdered? I find it sooooo hard to believe.”
I was there, I saw it. Some freepers were quite happy that there were two less Mormon missionaries around and said so loud and proud.
“Elizabeth / father probably because it is generally the father who does these things, not because they are lds.”
Oh it went way, way beyond that. There was a concerted effort to transform the story into a scandal for the church via the father. Again, I was there and saw it myself, as did many others.
Simply formulate your SQL query to exclude religion forum postings.
I am not saying you don’t believe what you say, it is unbelievable that it was how you remember.
SQL query? I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t do any query. Nor do I want to.
We need to bash some Seventh-Day Adventists for a change.
Anyone got any Ellen G. White anecdotes?
CTR
Signed by Old Mountain Man.
Not true. I've been around here for 10 years and the same haters, devoid of the love they preach, have been doing this nonstop. I too am not mormon.
Nice.....
And you continue to wonder why Christians....oppose mormonism?
BTW, do you think that FLDS being in the news has had any effect on the number of LDS threads?
Are you serious?
Oh, yeah, I gotcha.
So why does everybody keep talking about Mormons?
Signed by invincibily ignorant, a non-mormon.
In my opinion, you are a blatent liar and I’m calling you out.
Here is a link to the thread about the Mormon missionaries. You can read for yourself why it was locked.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1550903/posts
Go to the last page of this thread. It was MORMON trolls who got the thread locked.
Signed by colorcountry - former Mormon, and now you all can see why.
Frankly, I want to see more Hare Krishna posts.
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