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Joseph Smith's marriages to young women
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Posted on 05/06/2008 7:05:46 PM PDT by Grig

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1 posted on 05/06/2008 7:05:46 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

Cult Update!


2 posted on 05/06/2008 7:07:36 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Grig

Oh, and this was posted to the religion forum. If it shows up in the News forum, that is the mods doing, not mine.


3 posted on 05/06/2008 7:10:31 PM PDT by Grig (I love animals... as long as they are not overcooked.)
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The girls, the booze, the financial scams, the guns....but, ah, other than that, he's a Prophet. Like Jesus. Well, actually better, since Joe was God, not just a son of God. So there.
4 posted on 05/06/2008 7:20:36 PM PDT by Leisler
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How do I get my hands on those special glasses Joe got from Gabriel that makes it all so clear now..(eyes rolling)


5 posted on 05/06/2008 7:22:24 PM PDT by Patrick1
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Bet they were rose colored.


6 posted on 05/06/2008 7:32:38 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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Good grief. What gymnastics to excuse immoral behavior.


7 posted on 05/06/2008 7:34:02 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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Dude was the Hugh Hefner of his day!


8 posted on 05/06/2008 7:35:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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And this is all the fault of Mitt Romney!

I surely hope that we, as conservatives, can get past the 1800’s;
And look at Mitt’s resume as it relates to fixing problems, and working across aisles to forge a political consensus.

Unhappily, I don’t think that’s going to happen!

Sad! , even though Obama’s calling, and Hillary’s past lies, don’t make a difference to the Rats!


9 posted on 05/06/2008 7:40:10 PM PDT by aShepard
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2 Kings 2:23-25 (New King James) re. the Prophet Elisha:

“And he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him, ‘Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!’ So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the Lord. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths. Then he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.”

We members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God and we do not appreciate his name being ridiculed.


10 posted on 05/06/2008 7:49:20 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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He couldn’t have been a pedophile because (1) the term probably hadn’t been coined; (2) people attracted to teens are ephebophiles, not pedophiles; (3) lots of men in the 19th century married teenage girls and it was acceptable


11 posted on 05/06/2008 8:00:20 PM PDT by buck jarret
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Actually a lot of Joseph Smith's marriages were POLYANDRY. Meaning married to WOMEN WHO WERE ALREADY MARRIED.
12 posted on 05/06/2008 8:05:48 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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Is ‘Polly Andry’ available as a screen handle?


13 posted on 05/06/2008 8:06:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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To: Grig

There are some off-the-wall cults, but none so spectacularly off-the-wall as Mormonism.


14 posted on 05/06/2008 8:24:17 PM PDT by sasportas
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Critics argue that Joseph Smith's polygamous marriages to young women are evidence that he was immoral, perhaps even a pedophile.

No kidding. For the same reason such arguments are made by critics of Mohammad.
15 posted on 05/06/2008 8:41:52 PM PDT by festus (Tagline removed.)
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One wife (Maria Winchester) about which virtually nothing is known, was either 14 or 15.

Actually, a fair amount is known. Nancy Maria Winchester was my great-great-great-great-aunt.

NANCY MARIA WINCHESTER

Nancy was born August 10, 1828 in Erie County Pennsylvania.  She was the only daughter of Stephen and Nancy (Case) Winchester.  When the younger Nancy was four years old the Winchesters were visited in Erie by two Mormon missionaries, John F. Boynton and Evan M. Greene.   Nancy’s parents and older brother, Benjamin, were soon baptized.

The following year, the Winchesters moved to Kirtland, Ohio to be near others who shared their faith.  Following Mormon practice, Nancy was probably baptized when she turned eight years of age.

By 1842 the Winchesters had spent time in Missouri and were now settled in Nauvoo, living in the “third ward”.  In May of that year, Nancy joined the Female Relief Society where she served on committees with the charter “to search out the poor and suffering-To call on the rich for aid and thus as far as possible relieve the wants of all.”

Nancy’s marriage to Joseph is undocumented, although according to Mormon Church Historian Andrew Jenson, Nancy married Joseph sometime before his death in June of 1844.  Nancy would have been fourteen or fifteen years old.

A few months after Joseph Smith’s death, Nancy and another six of Joseph’s wives married Heber C. Kimball.  Since the temple had not been completed when Nancy married Joseph, she was re-sealed to him in 1846 in the near complete, but dedicated, Nauvoo temple.  Her husband “for time”, Heber C. Kimball stood proxy for Joseph Smith in this sealing.

Nancy immigrated to Utah in 1849.  Several years later she received a patriarchal blessing from John Smith.  She was blessed, “to heal the sick, cast out devils, and raise the dead, if necessary.”

Nancy died on March 17, 1876 in Salt Lake City.

16 posted on 05/06/2008 10:20:23 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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True prophets are holy and rise ABOVE the culture not succumb to it.


17 posted on 05/07/2008 12:50:09 AM PDT by ekeni (history repeats)
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As the song goes “Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money”. Looks like even old Joe could not escape this. LOL


18 posted on 05/07/2008 1:14:39 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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“True prophets are holy and rise ABOVE the culture not succumb to it.”

Polygamy is not immoral or else you had better strt questioning the entire foundation of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.


19 posted on 05/07/2008 1:24:41 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Spunky
Actually a lot of Joseph Smith's marriages were POLYANDRY. Meaning married to WOMEN WHO WERE ALREADY MARRIED.

Exactly. The young marriages make better press (and are easy to defend, given America in 1840). Instead its the polyandry...that would shock even King Solomon, that is really disgusting.

Even by Old Testament standards--when polygamy was allowed--Smith grossly violated God's law: By marrying other men's wives they GAVE him (WHAT?????) and marrying sisters, and mothers & daughters. Each of these three things is forbidden even in the Old Testament times. Besides, none of his extra "marriages" were legal anyhow, hence he was just a lecher--no better than Hugh Hefner.

No way this disgusting man was a prophet of God.

Oh, one other thing:"Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife" (1 Tim. 3:2) makes it clear that Smith was unfit for ANY kind of Church leadership....let alone a "prophet" starting a new "church."

20 posted on 05/07/2008 8:15:49 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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