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What does the Bible say about UFO's and extraterrestrials?
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Posted on 05/04/2008 11:14:46 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper

The world is not looking for a theological savior. The world is looking for a technological savior, who will save them from war, famine, poverty, and disease. Unregenerate man wants heaven on earth, on his own terms, and apart from G-d.

What better way for the powers of darkness to reveal themselves, than as the technological saviors of mankind. The world of the occult openly embraces the UFO's, and alien extraterrestrials. The occult will always proclaim these beings as benevolent. The alien contacts always speak of things which contradict the bible. The consistent theology of the extraterrestrial is antichrist. The consistent message of the aliens is hostile to Christianity. The high tech extraterrestrials are demons. This is the only consistent, scientific, and biblically sound explanation. 2 Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2 Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2 Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2 Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The main theme of the end times is deception. It is time of strong delusion, deception, lying signs and wonders, in the name of messiah. The last days will see UFO occupants having a prominent role in the establishment of a global world order government under the pseudo christ prince. After 42 months, this global world order government of the pseudo christ prince will ultimately be absolutely crushed and destroyed by the brightness of the glorious coming of the True Messiah Yeshua (Christ Jesus).

Matt 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of G-d saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

The union of the fallen angel demons with the daughters of men produced the nephilim. The direct intervention of the demon spirits with humans brought such demonic evil that violence filled the earth and the thoughts of mankind was only evil continually.

Here is the key to it all:

2 Thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

FOR THIS CAUSE GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION.

Demons are real. They will soon be kicked out of heaven and are coming down here to earth. Expect them first at places like Toronto & Pensecola, in the demonic personages and manifestations of Jannes & Jambres (2 Tim chapter 3).

Soon there will be 2 classes of people, those totally demon possessed, and those totally filled and sealed with the fullness of the Holy Spirit. Only that small group who are sealed and filled with the Holy Spirit will completely understand the STRONG DELUSION.

There will be spectacular extra terrestrial landings made totally public. These high tech extra terrestrials will say that they had to land to save the planet. The people will be told that they must unite behind the world leader of the extraterrestrial beings' choice. Their selection of the prince will be the antichrist.

The spectacular UFO landings will be after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Yeshua is the Hebrew word for salvation, and the name which the apostles called Jesus of Nazareth. It was the BLOOD of YESHUA which guaranteed the total defeat of these high tech deceivers almost 2000 years ago.

There is a cosmic deception coming on the earth in general and the Body of Messiah in particular.

Any time a Christian seeks after any supernatural experience you are on very dangerous ground. What about what blessing? When you look for an experience, signs, wonders or miracles you are setting yourself up to be deviated from the word of G-d. In these days we know counterfeit signs and wonders are going to be a major sign of the times. The days will be filled with false messiahs, and false prophets showing spectacular deceiving signs and wonders. I have witnessed G-d raise the dead; but, it was obviously G-d who did it and not some faith healing minister. The signs and wonders are going to be the badge of your enemies. They will even be coming in the name of Messiah. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, and spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph 6. We must put on the whole armor of G-d. It doesn't happen automatically. We have to do something. We have only one offensive weapon. The word of G-d. We can skip the meetings, skip the miracles, even skip the prayers; however, if we stop reading His word we will be in trouble. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of G-d. Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Angels are behind the major world powers. In Daniel 10, he is in fasting and prayer for 21 days. A messenger visits him and tells him that he could not get to Daniel for 21 days because he was being restrained by the prince of Persia. There is a demonic personage called the prince of Persia. Daniel has a dream and the angel tells Daniel the meaning of the dream. In Daniel chapter 7 he is shown all the global world order governments that would come on earth before the True Messiah Yeshua's final everlasting reign as King of Kings.

In 2 Kings 6, Elisha told the king of Israel, how he could avoid the strategies of the King of Syria. King of Syria sends a large army to capture Elisha. The servant of Elisha is scared of the large Syrian army. Elisha prays that his servant's eyes be opened so that he could see the horses and chariots of fire surrounding Elisha. G-d's redeemed, elect people, who look only to the redemption price of the BLOOD of YESHUA for their salvation, will be protected by faithful angels and the awsome power of the Holy Spirit of the Living G-d. All other people will be possessed by demon spirits who will go to the lake of fire with their demon possessors.

Biblical Christianity is becoming increasingly politically incorrect. The world is moving to a secular, socialist central world government. And G-d is going to send a STRONG DELUSION to help them believe and pursue their lie.

The Iron Mixed with Miry Clay in Verse 43 of Daniel chapter 2 - The iron mixed with miry clay is explained. The miry clay is clay made from dust. The miry clay can only be people or humankind. The iron is the strength of satanic demonic alien powers and principalities. The mystery of Roswell is not aliens but the incredible cover up of whatever it was that happened at Roswell. There are 10 regions or groupings that make up this iron & clay global world order beast government.

Just as in the Days of Noah, the iron mingles with the clay, demons mingle and come together and join with humankind. The contacts with the exterrestrials consistently refer to humans as "CONTAINERS." These are spirit beings from another space-time continuium. They want to operate in this physical universe and therfore will need to come into or MINGLE with their human "CONTAINERS." They will possess their human "containers" making their human containers feel good as they lead them to their mutual distruction at the return of the True Messiah Yeshua.

Daniel tells Nebuchadneser and us, if we will have ears to hear, that they (demon fallen angels, the iron), they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men; but, they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. He is speaking politically. To mingle with the seed of men, they must be something other than the seed of men. Now in Genesis 6, not only are there Nephilim but we must think of the "they" who took the daughters of men unto them. "They", mingling the seed of the" iron", with the daughters of men, "miry clay", to produce the Nephilim. This is "as it was in the Days of Noah."

God declared a war on Satan. Enmity, war, is declared between the woman and "thy seed." We understand the seed of the woman. What about the seed of the serpent?

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. The SEED OF THE SERPENT is a pseudo christ. The pseudo Christians will accept and follow the pseudo Christ. The SEED of Woman is the true Messiah Yeshua. The woman in Rev 12 is Israel. The seed of woman is the virgin born true Messiah Yeshua. Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

If the woman in revelation 12 were to be the church, she is in big trouble because she is pregnant. Iron may represent supernatural power and strength; however, a Rod of Iron would represent the absolute of spiritual power and authority, and can only be the True Messiah Yeshua.

The pseudo christ prince will be accepted by the Jews, by the pseudo Christians, the Muslims, the Hindus, Buddhists, and Satanists. He will be accepted by everyone who is religious and does not have a true relationship with the True Messiah Yeshua. This pseudo Christ prince will lead all the religious people in the world to wage a 42 month war on the saints who have a true relationship with the True Messiah Yeshua and not an apostate religion.

Psa 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Psa 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Promise to the True Messiah Yeshua as the Head of this kingdom

Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Counsel to all who want the global new world order and espouse its interests

Psa 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

The nations of the world are going to take up arms against G-d. Sound incredible? That is what will happen. It is easy to understand how the world would reject G-d, or ignore G-d. But in order for the world to load up weapons to go to war with G-d they will have the UFO's and their "outer space aliens" to help lead them in this. Remember the 3 unclean spirits? Rev 16:13 I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. The aliens will appear to the world to help us from the bad guys who are coming. It will indeed be a STRONG DELUSION.

Let me say it plainly. The UFO extraterrestrial occupants are demons. This is the only consistent, scientific, and biblically sound explanation. You may very simply and powerfully deal with them. Shout, "Blood of Yeshua!' When in doubt "BLOOD of YESHUA!" Had the princes of this world known, they would not have crucified the L-rd of Glory.

G-d created this planet and gave it to mankind for mankind to have dominion over it. Mankind, in the person of Adam, committed high treason. By submitting to Satan, mankind allowed Satan to take dominion of this planet. G-d had the power to take it back from Satan forcefully. However, He chose in stead to redeem, or legally purchase it back, through the redemption price of the BLOOD of YESHUA. Satan and all of his demon extraterrestrial hosts were totally defeated almost 2000 years ago when this redemption price was paid. You will soon have to deal with these demons. Shout, "BLOOD of YESHUA!" The demon will flee from you. The BLOOD of YESHUA guarantees the eternal destiny of these extraterrestrial demons is the eternal lake of fire. All who join with these alien demons will follow them to an eternal lake of fire.

If the BLOOD of YESHUA is your covering and source of your authority, then you have the power to overcome ALL the power of these deceptive high tech enemies of your soul. Make no mistake, the UFO extraterrestrial occupants are enemies of your soul. Make no mistake, that the most powerful force against these demonic hosts is to simply shout, "BLOOD of YESHUA!" They so hate this reminder of their ultimate defeat and destiny that they will invariably flee as you shout "BLOOD of YESHUA!"


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To: big'ol_freeper; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; ...
This has me laughing so hard. What a fantasy world is modern day protestantism.

Really?

Akin to the UNBIBLICAL FANTASIZED:

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's ascension?

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's post Jesus childlessness?

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's Blasphemous intercessions?

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's fabricated role as the NEW Ark of the New Covenant?

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's own purported Immaculate Conception?

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's apparition/visitations in various places . . . not that the apparition was a fantasy and did not occur--but that the personage was really Christ's Mother returned.

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's being the interposed mother of the world between lesser humans and Christ . . .

--Magnificent Magical Earth-Mother Mary caricature's many skyscrapers of dogma built upon the toothpick "full of grace."

--the RC magicsterical political power-mongers' fantasies that the chief Roman political RELIGIOUS operative is the head of all Christendom . . .

--the RC magicsterical political power-mongers' fantasies that all earthly RELIGIOUS Christian authority has been placed in said chief Roman political RELIGIOUS operative's hands . . .

--the RC magicsterical political power-mongers' fantasies that pebble Peter was the first such chief Roman RELIGIOUS operative . . .

--the RC magicsterical political power-mongers' fantasies that their little clique grown large existed before ~AD400 . . .

--the RC magicsterical political power-mongers' fantasies that they have exclusive power to consign folks to hell or delcare such the case . . .

--the RC magicsterical political power-mongers' fantasies that their construction on RELIGIOUS club realities is the only authorized, authentic, true one . . . [ROTFLOL] . . .

--the RC magicsterical political power-mongers' fantasies that their skyscrapers of dogma and ritual have been homogeneously pure and unchanging since Pentecost or some such . . . when their little club didn't even exist until ~400 and certainly have not remained anything close to pure or unchanged since then.

. . . ad nauseum indeed . . .

Along side such a horrific list of RC magicsterical fantasies . . . Protty's meager, much more plausible constructions on RELIGIOUS realities are very much weak also-rans as far as fantasies go.
301 posted on 05/06/2008 7:38:03 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: dinoparty

Thank you for being such a vivid symbol of the other perspective’s alternate reality.


302 posted on 05/06/2008 7:39:50 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: dinoparty

I don’t recall assigning you the label “friend.”

I’m not currently fantasizing doing so in the near future.

Of course, confession and repentance could change things.


303 posted on 05/06/2008 7:41:38 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: big'ol_freeper; newgeezer

It says that they don’t exist except for the occasional demon pretending to be an alien.


304 posted on 05/06/2008 7:41:53 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: dinoparty

305 posted on 05/06/2008 7:43:12 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DungeonMaster

“It says . . . “

Please elaborate on what “It” is and on what it says about such.

If you are talking about The Bible, I believe you are inaccurate.


306 posted on 05/06/2008 7:47:27 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
I was responding to the title of the thread so "it" is the bible. I should have copied the title to make that clear.

It says it indirectly in the order of creation which makes clear the purpose of the rest of the stars in the universe. They are window dressings and for signs.

307 posted on 05/06/2008 9:05:21 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: DungeonMaster
It says it indirectly in the order of creation which makes clear the purpose of the rest of the stars in the universe. They are window dressings and for signs.

NOT AT ALL.

That's acctually a galactic cluster sized stretch.

It's an extremely tenuous, ephemeral, fantasized extrapolation, inference, leap of rationalized bias.

Arguing from silence is never a safe bet.

And, as others have documented . . . a number of verses hint much more strongly and relatively straightforwardly that such a bias is without foundation.

As I've noted . . . God promised Abraham that his kids would number greater than the grains of sand on the seashore.

And, it is clear from the NT that righteous Jews and Christians will rule and reign eternally with Christ--judging even angels.

This little planet is not remotely able to house that many chiefs--much less that many chiefs AND their indians.

And that's just one example.

An interesting, far-fetched inference, leap of bias, however. I don't think I've come across that one before.

308 posted on 05/06/2008 9:22:03 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

People seem to have a real hard time with the idea of being alone in the universe. If you don’t believe in a 7 day creation happening about 6000 years ago, then there is little point in trying to use the bible to discuss this issue.


309 posted on 05/06/2008 10:08:31 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: DungeonMaster

I believe Scripture is accurate about theology and history.

I can believe God started something new and special X thousand years ago.

I do not believe that this planet had 0.00000% life on it

PRIOR to it being VOID AND WITHOUT form just before Adam’s trek on the scene.


310 posted on 05/06/2008 10:10:27 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DungeonMaster

There are Chinese writings verifiably 7,000 years old.


311 posted on 05/06/2008 10:10:55 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
There are Chinese writings verifiably 7,000 years old.

There are many things "verifiably" older than 7,000 years. If you care to believe the verification. I believe the bible. How does something "without form, void and dark" support life?

312 posted on 05/06/2008 10:46:44 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: DungeonMaster

Scripture says

nothing

—certainly nothing with any specific clarity or certainty

about

what this place was like

BEFORE

it was

VOID AND WITHOUT FORM.

All kinds of things are possible.

Arguing either direction from silence is foolishness.

In terms of the Chinese . . . there are a variety of ways to date early stuff. And for many thousands of years . . . it’s a simple thing . . . their documents are more or less uninterrupted as though a series of Britanica yearbooks of official records mack well before the NT or OT eras in most respects IIRC.

The writings 7,000 years old are clearly from an era IIRC, that has been documented in terms of age several different ways.

I don’t think myopic and distorted explanations for earth’s eras and cosmology help Scriptural accuracy nor theology much at all. And, have actually done a lot of damage.

It is CONCEIVABLE that God could have staged a 6,000 year old earth that pretended to be older. But it’s not like God to do such a thing. He’s very authentic, real, consistent etc.

Also, I notice you didn’t touch the Abraham seed thing . . . I think that’s just one of a number of deal breakers for this being 100% all there is or ever will be.


313 posted on 05/06/2008 11:31:39 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DungeonMaster

Yeah, Ice Cores with clearly laid down layers year by year would be one thing going back well before 7,000 years.

I hate it when Christians unnecessarily make themselves look ignorant.


314 posted on 05/06/2008 11:32:47 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Actually, given the evidence and the 80% of the population who believe alien/ET craft are involved and that the government has been lying about them for decades . . . the kooks are in the 20% who don’t believe that in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Yes, I've seen some of your "overwhelming evidence", Quix.

It's quite....um......"enlightening"..... :-)

315 posted on 05/06/2008 11:47:57 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Quix
I hate it when Christians unnecessarily make themselves look ignorant.

How about when "Christians" unnecessarily make themselves look rude when discussing things with other Christians.

316 posted on 05/06/2008 11:52:26 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: Religion Moderator

Ok. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about but I do understand you guidance.


317 posted on 05/06/2008 12:12:13 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: marshmallow

Perhaps you haven’t to probably you haven’t.

I rarely post much of it. I just talk about it.

It’s around for folks to ferret out and discern for themselves.

I’ve spent more than 45 years sorting through the puzzle pieces. I have no need to do a lot of the hard work for skeptics who have no shred of an open mind about it anyway.


318 posted on 05/06/2008 12:16:46 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DungeonMaster

It will be interesting to look at that “unnecessarily” from Heaven’s perspective.

Some of us tend to look rude just breathing . . . even with a bag over our heads.

LOL.


319 posted on 05/06/2008 12:18:10 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DungeonMaster

BTW, I didn’t really make clear . . . I was speaking as though to the bulk of the folks who contend that the world is only 6,000 normal years old—in all my comments and posts about that issue. I don’t really know you well enough to speak only to you on such.


320 posted on 05/06/2008 12:20:19 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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