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To: bert

Of course not.....but you obviously haven’t been taught the difference in ADORATION and REVERENCE. It;s VERY simple...let the scales fall.


114 posted on 05/04/2008 6:14:37 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I just adore fence posts but it accomplishes very little but personal fellings of well being


117 posted on 05/04/2008 6:19:18 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Ann Archy; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...
WHEN adoration waddles like worship . . .
WHEN adoration swims like worship . . .
WHEN adoration flys like worship . . .
WHEN adoration lays eggs like worship . . .
WHEN adoration quacks like worship . . .
WHEN adoration mushes and nibbles the flowers like worship . . .
WHEN adoration bobbles like worship . . .
WHEN adoration pounds mud like worship . . .
WHEN adoration gobbles duckweed like worship . . .

MOST PROTTYS [in contrast to Pied Pipered RC's] have the horse sense to recognize it as

. . .

drum roll . . .

WORSHIP!

We TRY to leave the deluded stuff to the RC's . . . though we cerainly have no perfect record on that score.

173 posted on 05/04/2008 10:01:43 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Ann Archy
I'm sorry but Mary is indeed worshipped in the Catholic Church per your own catechism

From "Catechism of the Catholic Church: 2nd Edition":

964: Mary's role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. "This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to his death";504 it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:

"Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: "Woman, behold your son."505

Spin it any way you want but when a mere woman is 'united' with God she becomes a goddess. To say that the sufferings of the cross to pay the penalty for our sin by the Son of God has now also been applied to Mary is utter blasphemy.

Again:

966: Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."508 The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:

In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.509

Note above that Mary is now 'Queen'over all things, and that she will deliver souls from death. These descriptions are affirmation of deity, or goddess worship.

To illustrate that this is indeed what is happening: I once attended a wedding of my nephew in St. Mary's Catholic Church in Evansville, IN. Upon entering the church one looks directly towards the altar. Whereupon one sees a huge statute of Mary with her feet standing upon the globe of the earth completely dominating the entire altar (let alone church itself). I looked in vain trying to find a statue of Christ. Finally I found one in a small alcove in a corner to the right outside of the altar.....it was about maybe a foot tall. So not only is Mary the focal point of the alter, she supercedes Christ in magnificence and size!

Consider these verses applying to Mary which are in complete contradiction to the catechism: Mary, a descendant of Adam, was born in sin (Psalm 51:5; Romans 5:12); Mary was a sinner, only God is Holy (Luke 18:19; Romans 3:23; Revelation 15:4); Mary had other children after the birth of Christ (Matthew 13:55, 56); Mary is a member of the church, not the Mother of the Church (Acts 1:14; I Cor. 12:13, 27).

Flame away and say what you will, but elevating Mary to equal or even superior status to Christ, elevating Mary to a full participant in the salvation of Man, and elevating Mary to the Queen of all things is utter blasphemy. To say that Catholics actively engage in goddess worship is an understatement. No wonder a reformation was needed!!!!!!!!!

516 posted on 05/05/2008 9:56:41 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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