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The Eucharist: The Body of Christ? ("Respectful Dialogue" thread)
Our Sunday Visitor (via Catholic Culture) ^ | 1/2005 | Marcellino D'Ambrosio, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/27/2008 3:36:18 AM PDT by markomalley

The Catholic Church teaches that in the Eucharist, the communion wafer and the altar wine are transformed and really become the body and blood of Jesus Christ. Have you ever met anyone who has found this Catholic doctrine to be a bit hard to take?

If so, you shouldn't be surprised. When Jesus spoke about eating his flesh and drinking his blood in John 6, his words met with less than an enthusiastic reception. "How can this man give us his flesh to eat? (V 52). "This is a hard saying who can listen to it?" (V60). In fact so many of his disciples abandoned him over this that Jesus had to ask the twelve if they also planned to quit. It is interesting that Jesus did not run after his disciples saying, "Don't go — I was just speaking metaphorically!"

How did the early Church interpret these challenging words of Jesus? Interesting fact. One charge the pagan Romans lodged against the Christians was cannibalism. Why? You guessed it. They heard that this sect regularly met to eat human flesh and drink human blood. Did the early Christians say: "wait a minute, it's only a symbol!"? Not at all. When trying to explain the Eucharist to the Roman Emperor around 155AD, St. Justin did not mince his words: "For we do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Sav­ior being incarnate by God's word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the word of prayer which comes from him . . . is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus."

Not many Christians questioned the real presence of Christ's body and blood in the Eucharist till the Middle Ages. In trying to explain how bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ, several theologians went astray and needed to be corrected by Church authority. Then St. Thomas Aquinas came along and offered an explanation that became classic. In all change that we observe in this life, he teaches, appearances change, but deep down, the essence of a thing stays the same. Example: if, in a fit of mid-life crisis, I traded my mini-van for a Ferrari, abandoned my wife and 5 kids to be beach bum, got tanned, bleached my hair blonde, spiked it, buffed up at the gym, and took a trip to the plastic surgeon, I'd look a lot different on the surface. But for all my trouble, deep down I'd still substantially be the same ole guy as when I started.

St. Thomas said the Eucharist is the one instance of change we encounter in this world that is exactly the opposite. The appearances of bread and wine stay the same, but the very essence or substance of these realities, which can't be viewed by a microscope, is totally transformed. What was once bread and wine are now Christ's body and blood. A handy word was coined to describe this unique change. Transformation of the "sub-stance", what "stands-under" the surface, came to be called "transubstantiation."

What makes this happen? The power of God's Spirit and Word. After praying for the Spirit to come (epiklesis), the priest, who stands in the place of Christ, repeats the words of the God-man: "This is my Body, This is my Blood." Sounds to me like Genesis 1: the mighty wind (read "Spirit") whips over the surface of the water and God's Word resounds. "Let there be light" and there was light. It is no harder to believe in the Eucharist than to believe in Creation.

But why did Jesus arrange for this transformation of bread and wine? Because he intended another kind of transformation. The bread and wine are transformed into the Body and Blood of Christ which are, in turn, meant to transform us. Ever hear the phrase: "you are what you eat?" The Lord desires us to be transformed from a motley crew of imperfect individuals into the Body of Christ, come to full stature.

Our evangelical brethren speak often of an intimate, personal relationship with Jesus. But I ask you, how much more personal and intimate can you get? We receive the Lord's body into our physical body that we may become Him whom we receive!

Such an awesome gift deserves its own feast. And that's why, back in the days of Thomas Aquinas and St. Francis of Assisi, the Pope decided to institute the Feast of Corpus Christi.


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To: Forest Keeper
In what I hope is pardonable arrogance, I dare to refer you to this for more on the Eucharist.

I am insisting to anyone who will hold still that my entirely prudent and temperate decision to save gas money by buying a motorcycle has nothing to do with my turning 60. Nothing at ALL!

1,941 posted on 05/08/2008 8:23:45 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
In what I hope is pardonable arrogance, I dare to refer you to this for more on the Eucharist.

Thanks for the link to your post. It was a good read and I think I understand where you're coming from a little better now.

I am insisting to anyone who will hold still that my entirely prudent and temperate decision to save gas money by buying a motorcycle has nothing to do with my turning 60. Nothing at ALL!

Hey, nice ride! I didn't even know something like that existed for street riding. With the extra wheel I might even be able to sell it to my wife for whenever I decide to have my mid-life crisis. :) And as you said, it's for the environment.

1,942 posted on 05/09/2008 1:14:12 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper
Well, today is my motorscooter's week-a-versary. Last weekend I was pestering the boss-lady: Anything I can get you from town? A stick of gum? An aspirin? A glass of water?

But when she actually thought of something and I went to the local IGA I had to give a seminar to the guys who clustered around. Every time I park in a public place I end up having to 'splain my bike. SUCH a burden!

The great thing about the two front wheels is that it handles on a dirt road remarkably well. My BMW of decades ago was a wonderful touring bike but on a rough surface it was pathetic. It does okay on wet pavements too.

1,943 posted on 05/09/2008 4:50:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: markomalley

Thank you very much for posting this thread. It is clearly true that transubstantiation is a difficult subject for anybody. This is why it took a great scholar as Aquinas to address it. Even so, it remains one of the great mysteries of our faith: a mystery which can not ever be completely fathomed.


1,944 posted on 05/09/2008 6:57:46 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Mad Dawg
But when she actually thought of something and I went to the local IGA I had to give a seminar to the guys who clustered around. Every time I park in a public place I end up having to 'splain my bike. SUCH a burden!

Yeah, you LOVE it and you know it! LOL! I hope it works out great for you. It looks like a blast to ride. :)

1,945 posted on 05/09/2008 5:27:41 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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