[Coyoteman]

If ID is science, and the issue of Expelled is a debate over who does science in academia, why are so many of these articles posted in the Religion Forum?

I thought we were all supposed to pretend ID has no connection to religion.

[RussP]

I would have posted it in the philosophy forum, but that seems to have disappeared.

ID does potentially have religious implications, of course. So does evolution, obviously. But since when do the “implications” of an idea determine whether or not it is “scientific”? Shouldn’t science follow the evidence wherever it leads, regardless of the implications?

The Big Bang Theory was originally met with hostility by many scientists because it was perceived to have religious implications. Yes, science came around on that one, and they will on ID as well because the evidence is so overwhelming. The question is only how long it will take — and how many careers will be sacrificed to the gods of political correctness in the process.

[D-fendr]

If evolution is only science then why is Dawkins writing “The God Delusion”?

[DeLaVerdad]

“I thought we were all supposed to pretend ID has no connection to religion.”

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You’re right - that seems to be the premise. But I’m not pretending anything - “Intelligent Design” says that God is Intelligent (which He is) and that God is the Designer. I’m not giving credit or credence to a term that leaves Him out of the equation. Sorry, but if the framers were still here they could tell you that church and state were intended to be united and not divided. Even our money still says “In God we Trust?” In order to believe ID or “Creationism” you really have to believe that scripture is truth or written by God through men. If you can’t believe that then you will never believe in ID. I believe Science and God are totally compatible and that he’s the most amazing genius scientist there is. We were given an intellect and should use it to consider higher truths and not debased theories that are more ridiculous and unscientific than one could imagine. No matter what anyone says, this issue is about believing in God or being an atheist.

Read Job chapter 38 (here’s a bit of it - 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, 2 “Who is this that darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 “Now gird up your loins like a man, And I will ask you, and you instruct Me! 4 “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell {Me,} if you have understanding, 5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? 6 “On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, ... keep reading)