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To: allmendream

“Can you provide a single Public quote of a Nazi leader using Evolutionary rhetoric to inflame Jew hatred?”

Unless you are completely clueless (and, frankly, I’m starting to wonder) you should know that political leaders do not explicitly cite scientific references or jargon. But many speeches of Hitler obviously talked about the “racial superiority” of the Germans and how it must be maintained and actively promoted. If that’s not as close to “evolutionary rhetoric” as a political leader could ever be expected to get, I don’t know what is.

Your refusal to admit that the Nazis were motivated in part by Darwinism and used it to rationalize their bigotry is quite telling. You call that “guilt by association,” but it happens to be the truth. Too darn bad if the truth bothers you.


111 posted on 04/25/2008 12:26:09 PM PDT by RussP
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To: RussP
So you cannot provide a direct quote where a Nazi leader extorted the masses to hate Jews using Evolutionary rhetoric. Throwing in the towel on actual evidence you fall back on what the Nazi leaders secretly might have believed in their hearts rather than the actual historic record of what they said to their followers to whip up Jew hatred.

If Guilt by Association is valid, then is Christianity debased by the following comments of Hitler?

“My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago — a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people.” Adolf Hitler

Wow, how easy to find a direct quote where Hitler used Christianity as a justification to hate Jews. Where oh where is the analog's quote where he uses talk of evolution to whip up hatred of Jews?

Anyone?

Bueller?

Bueller?

112 posted on 04/25/2008 12:45:48 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: RussP
>> But many speeches of Hitler obviously talked about the “racial superiority” of the Germans and how it must be maintained and actively promoted. If that’s not as close to “evolutionary rhetoric” as a political leader could ever be expected to get, I don’t know what is. <<

Apparently alot of creationists on this board don't understand the difference between the study of evolution and the study of genetics. Darwin's writings take no position on traits of a race within a species, but merely how species as a whole come to be. The study of individuals traits of a race is called genetics, and it was invented by Gregore Mendel, a devout Catholic monk (from seeing these threads on FR, it seems creationists want to pretend Mendel never existed because his very legacy goes against their talking points that scientists are all atheists who hate the bible)

But if someone were to argue for "racial superiority" within a species, they'd have to study Mendal, NOT Darwin. That's why Eugenics is called Eugenics and not Euevoluionism. It comes from the science of Genetics.

137 posted on 05/02/2008 11:09:20 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Freepers , remember when the Dems "took out Gary Condit NOW"? That seat is now safe Dem forever.)
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