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To: D-fendr

“In my mind it shouldn’t matter what a mason leader tells me to do, but if I were to wish to become a mason, I’d need to change my mind.”

There’s one huge difference right there. A Mason leader can’t order anyone to do anything.

I think we’ve beat this horse into the ground. I know that Catholics have issues with Freemasonry and I find that unfortunate. If the church could truly see us for what we are, I believe they would feel differently. Sadly, there is too much water under the bridge in the form of conspiracy theories, lies, and fantastic tales - and guilt on the part of the Catholic church itself in the history of Freemasonry. But who knows, perhaps someday we will be looked upon in a better light. After all, the Vatican is finally thawing out to the Jews. Maybe we’ll be next.

Thanks much for your insight. It was a pleasure debating with you.


238 posted on 04/11/2008 7:56:46 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Magnatron
A Mason leader can’t order anyone to do anything.

I see. So you can just make up rites and vows, print up some certificates, show up whenever you want, rent out the lodge for frat parties..;)

You guys got some authority, some leadership and some rules and requirements for members.

After all, the Vatican is finally thawing out to the Jews.

Whoa! And you think We have misconceptions about You? :) I do hope we understand each other better and I very much hope things can be reconciled in the future.

"Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur" roughly translated means "God is not bound by the sacraments, but we are."

I think we’ve beat this horse into the ground.

I certainly have and I sincerely appreciate your patience.

My very best wishes to you and yours, may God bless you always.

Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit.

240 posted on 04/11/2008 10:25:18 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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