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To: Mad Dawg
"So it's your contention that They will call her blessed but they will be wrong to do so? The textual tradition is incomplete and the full text is:"

No, what I said was,

"Jesus responds, not by denying that Mary is blessed, but says in comparative terms those are greater blessed that hear and obey.

Luk 11:28 “But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.”

Jesus uses the same comparative formula concerning the righteousness of the Pharisees and the person of John the Baptist. He does not deny that the Pharisees are righteous, He says that kingdom righteousness exceeds that. He does not deny that John the Baptist is considered great, He says that those of the kingdom are greater."

Notice the "δέ" translated "but" in Luke 11:26 is the same word translated "notwithstanding" in Mat 11:11.

916 posted on 04/07/2008 1:26:44 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan; Kolokotronis
Notice the "δέ" translated "but" in Luke 11:26 is the same word translated "notwithstanding" in Mat 11:11.

Kolo! Greek alert!

In Attic Greek (which is where my textbook is) there is a kind of "on the other hand" sense "δέ", but I have had a tough time (the last time this came up, some months ago) running down any sense of certainty about the particle.

Maybe Kolo or some other Greek scholar can give us some words of wisdom.

943 posted on 04/07/2008 6:07:05 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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