Posted on 03/29/2008 8:24:03 PM PDT by hanfei
Why?? There is no "secret knowledge" in Catholic beliefs. Ninety-nine percent of Catholic doctrines are far more Biblically based than Protestant ones. Christ himself taught from "tradition-based" (non-written) Jewish religious sources.
So it is not "good to have more" writings. This stuff is not Christianity; to insist otherwise is to hopelessly garble the message. Dig deeper. Don't settle for being a mere controvertialist. If you think Jesus was divine, then investigate the criteria for authentic Scripture that the early Church demanded. When you do, you will run away from the idea that the "Gospel of Mary Magdalene" is anything other than a book written by people who sought to parallel Christianity, but who were definitely confused enough to be outside the fold entirely.
Gnosticism started way before Christianity and the Apostle Paul was up to his ears in it.
Sorry, but your shorthand reply is gibberish, and I still have no clue as to what point you're trying to make. The doctrines of the RC church are open to anyone to read/understand.
His disciples said to Him, "When will the kingdom come?"
Jesus said, "It will not come by expectation; they will not say "look here" or "see there". But the kingdom of the Father is spread over the earth, and men do not see it." --from The Gospel of Thomas
I understand their doctrine and their denial. Thanx for playing.
Err, how about a link?
It is not clear how old any of the gospels are, though some material (the so-called “Q” material) is undoubtedly old, whether one believes the “Sayings Gospel Q” theory or not. (I don’t, though I posted Q for people to see much of the old material in pristine form).
Early Christianity was quite varied. I don’t believe in the Nicene Creed.
ZOT for this post alone.
Well the material is taken out of the context of the New Testament so yes, in that respect, it's old. But the so-called 'Gospel of Q' is a mere academic hypothesis first posited by Herbert Marsh in 1801 and ergo is NOT that old.
I don’t believe in the Nicene Creed.
Too bad: it's the perfect succinct summa of authentic orthodox Christianity.
This is a gnostic text dating to around A.D. 150 at the earliest. Very similar to other texts like the Gospel of Judas and Thomas. There is a reason these texts did not make the canon of Sacred Scripture.
I agree there is reason why these texts did not make the canon of Sacred Scripture.... but they are interesting to read this day in light of what did get canonized. At 150 A.D. dating, makes it impossible for Mary Magdalene, or any other person living at the time Christ walked in the flesh to have been the author.
“The changes in the text may reflect the historical exclusion of women from their earlier leadership roles in Christian communities.”
Okay, not a scholar here. Is there some firm basis for believing that women had “leadership roles,” despite Corinthians 14:34: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law?”
I don’t remember any talk about women having “leadership roles” until the sixties and after.
Ah, I see---living up to your "nom de plume". But I seriously doubt that either is true. And I'm NOT playing---though you seem to be.
Oh I think you are.
Doesn’t take more than one reading to figure out that the guy talking about “restoring the essence of every nature to its root” is not the same guy as the one in the real Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, my Lord and Savior.
“There’s nothing wrong with the catholicos gospels; it’s just good to have more.”
Even the Catholics deny the Gnostic gospels. You have no point but division.
No, actually I'm not. I'm interested in finding where the truth sits. If you think you've got some, trot it out, otherwise sit down and shut up. I don't have time for sophomoric head games.
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