In this case above, convoluted reasoning and out of context quoting succeeds in proving exactly nothing.
Being buried in water by baptism is the essence of the symbolism. The old man dies to sin and is buried in baptism and rises to walk in the spiritual life.
I understand that it is somehow difficult or impossible for many to grasp, but still, for some of my experience, the concept is simplicity itself.
Acts chapter 2 verse 38 pretty much demonstrates just what the symbolism of Peter being given the “keys” is all about. Most will not see this simple fact.
So go on and defend the practice of spiritually burying innocent babies, calling mortal men “Father”, redundant ritualistic prayers, and so on.
Meanwhile, the seven letters to the Church(es) in Asia will likely remain a mystery for all of your days.
Call me a cynic.
I forgot to mention, I’ll be back on FR.com on Tuesday.
Yes, that is the symbolism. What makes you think I disagree?
If you want to discuss some other scripture, make it relevant to the topic on hand, and I will discuss it.