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To: thefrankbaum
Yeah, nevermind the architecture. lol

However, while, yes, God is the head of house, He isn't home right now, so to speak.

I have to disagree. The Holy Spirit is with us- and this point goes to the center of our debate.

Christ was rejected and murdered because He represented a challenge to the present religious ruling class, who were grasping their influential and profitable place in the lives of God's people at all costs.

Today, the Holy Spirit is rejected for much the same reason.

454 posted on 03/26/2008 6:15:20 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I have to disagree. The Holy Spirit is with us- and this point goes to the center of our debate.

That's what's kind of creepy here. There is no substantive difference between your position and that of Mohammedens.

Everything is God's rule, God's law, God's judgement...funny thing is it's men who keep actually performing all the things they keep claiming God is doing.

You people keep claiming it's the Holy Spirit leading you, but what you're really saying is you are doing what God told you. Do you realize that?

I'm sorry. I will not take serious some redneck claiming the Holy Spirit gives him the discernment to know the King James Bible is the Word of God because none of the modern translations show the Sanhedrin where so mad at Stephen they actually bit him in the book of Acts. Nor will I take serious others claiming Holy Spirit guidance who, while more sophisticated, espouse the same philosophical methods.

468 posted on 03/26/2008 8:24:45 AM PDT by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: ovrtaxt
I KNEW I shouldn't have stuck with the "House" analogy. As I was typing, I could see this response coming - foolish of me to continue anyway.

I agree with you that the Holy Spirit is with us - the difference is, I think He resides directly in the Church, and prevents it from error. I don't deny that He may also choose to work outside the Church, but, in accordance with Scripture, He ensures the forces of Satan will not overcome and destroy the Church. Believe me, Catholics absolutely seek and hope for the Holy Spirit - we just believe He has worked through the past two millenia within the Church's bounds.

Sorry if this is a little late, and not directly on point with our earlier conversation. I had about 10 pings to me on this thread, and am trying to play catch-up!

593 posted on 03/26/2008 5:41:46 PM PDT by thefrankbaum
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