Posted on 03/24/2008 3:36:37 PM PDT by annalex
Clarification for what?
I get it. You're going to do what you want.
What makes you so positive we're supposed to "follow Paul's model" without any revision?
Nada...Logic and common sense prove to be wrong all too often...Logic and common sense come from the flesh...Discernment is a God/Spiritual thing...
Discernment is an enhancement of logic and common sense.
The fact that, after God had chosen Paul, the Apostles laid hands upon him to confer their gift goes a long way in supporting the passing on of the gift.
“When did the Apostles do this??? Please refresh my memory”
Annanias, a disciple conferred by the Apostles... Acts 9: 17-19, “So Annanias went and entered the house, laying his hands on him, he said, “Saul, my brother, ...”
This follows Saul’s conversion by Christ.
“I “responded to the post about the Bread of Life” for the 100th time.”
No, you ignored responding about The Bread of Life. Because to deny it is to deny the Gospel and the very request of Jesus Christ.
...John 6:53-58, 66-67 (Read the Word of Jesus Christ)
“So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him”
“If you still insist on misreading the Scriptures, pray for clarity.”
Does it get any clearer than Christ’s words? Reread them above.
Let’s see:
Our Lord Jesus Christ instructs us to do something very beautiful. Stranger on the internet mocks it derisively.
What to do . . . what to do?
That's what's kind of creepy here. There is no substantive difference between your position and that of Mohammedens.
Everything is God's rule, God's law, God's judgement...funny thing is it's men who keep actually performing all the things they keep claiming God is doing.
You people keep claiming it's the Holy Spirit leading you, but what you're really saying is you are doing what God told you. Do you realize that?
I'm sorry. I will not take serious some redneck claiming the Holy Spirit gives him the discernment to know the King James Bible is the Word of God because none of the modern translations show the Sanhedrin where so mad at Stephen they actually bit him in the book of Acts. Nor will I take serious others claiming Holy Spirit guidance who, while more sophisticated, espouse the same philosophical methods.
I get it. You're going to do what you want.
??? You lost me there.
Stung a little, huh?
But Annanias was not an Apostle. And interestingly enough here is a case of a lesser [a disciple] laying hands on a greater [an Apostle]. Now how does that upset the theological apple cart???
...definitions of "Church" and "apostolic succession" would be a necessary starting point [to determine how Protestants had authority to break away from the Church during the "Reformation"]. Things like that tend to break down in view of the structure of the early church anyway.
I think thefrankbaum gave a reasonable definition of apostolic succession, and what it means, and also showed that it was indeed part of the "structure of the early church". As far as a definition of "Church" itself, classically, it's the "Body of Christ" and, at the same time, the "Body (or group) of Believers".
I would prefer you continue conversing with thefankbaum, specifically, responding to his post #349 to you. Even more specifically, to answer the question, "Further, what do you think the reason for the laying on of hands (especially in the case of Paul) was, if not to pass along this authority?"
***The Holy Spirit worked through the the apostles and bishops...***
And your point is?
The Holy Spirit would have been just as effective working through chimpanzee, if that’s how God wanted it done.
Quit trying to kick God off of his throne by putting sinners on it....
So much anger!
Quit trying to kick God off of his throne by putting sinners on it....
= =
INDEED!
It does seem pretty clear that the
nutty RC cult edifice
IS
an expert on anger..
Some anger is easy to identify.
***give what you have to the poor, take up your cross and follow Christ.**
So why aren’t you doing that? I mean, it is evident you have a computer. Why is that? Why haven’t you given it to the poor.
Seems like you might be missing out on an important piece of what God commands.
Let me guess: strut into Church smug in the delusion that I am "elect."
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