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To: DouglasKC; magisterium; Chris DeWeese
'The Trinity is a doctrine that was invented by man. God sent Jesus. Jesus sent the Spirit. Do you see how the Trinity is flawed? The Trinity says all 3 are the same! One cannot send another if all 3 are the same! There are two Gods, the Father and the Son. In my mind, the jury is out on the Spirit. In some places it has its own will and goes where it pleases, in others it is sent by Jesus.'

Do you agree with these statements upthread? If so, I submit you have much bigger problems than the sabbath observance commandment.

133 posted on 03/18/2008 6:37:39 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone
Do you agree with these statements upthread? If so, I submit you have much bigger problems than the sabbath observance commandment.

There is certainly a holy spirit, but the holy spirit IN SCRIPTURE is never pictured in the Godhead in heaven. Ever. For example:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was already with God in the beginning.

No person called "holy spirit" there.

Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Rev 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshiped God,

No acknowledgment of a person called "the holy spirit" in heaven.

Throughout the bible, in glimpse after glimpse of the heavenly Godhead, we see the father and the son, but never a separate person called "the holy spirit."

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

The concept of the trinity as many embrace it today is an invention of man. It's not biblical and it's not what Jesus or the first Christians believed or embraced.

The only problem I have is that not a lot of people bother to read the bible, much less believe it, so it's hard to show them the truth.

134 posted on 03/18/2008 6:49:09 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: xone
You must have me confused with someone else. I am a Catholic. Of course I am Trinitarian in my beliefs!
146 posted on 03/19/2008 6:23:02 AM PDT by magisterium
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