[topcat54]

The “pretrib rapture” has been in the Bible since it was translated. It’s not something invented by man. If you don’t want ot believe that, you are not obligated to believe that. I simply see no reason to debate what is clearly in the Bible.

Such claims ring hollow in the absence of specific Bible texts to support them.

[nmh]

The “pretrib rapture” has been in the Bible since it was translated. It’s not something invented by man. If you don’t want to believe that, you are not obligated to believe that. I simply see no reason to debate what is clearly in the Bible.

Such claims ring hollow in the absence of specific Bible texts to support them.

LOL!

A good starting point for you to get back on track is:

1Thes.4:17

[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

One of many references to this.

It is your choice not to believe the Bible. People can only point things out to you. You are free to reject it too as you are doing. I see no reason to debate His word. I see no reason to supersede your opinion over His word.

It is true that scoffers and others will mock His word as well as pursuing their own lusts. We see that all the time ... . 2Pet.3:9 [3] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, Don't be one of them. I do not see the need to debate YOUR opinion over God's Word and really wish YOU would respect that. If not, I will ignore you. Have a pleasant night.