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To: Godzilla
No, actually the Biblical standard is very clear and straightforward. A true prophet will always speak the truth. How well have lds’ living prophets and seers done in this category f? Do you want a list of Smiths, Youngs, etc false prophecies? How about the false translations of materials - or the failure of the living prophet and seer at the time to recognize such?

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Enough has been said about people mis representing our Prophets and others being happy with half truths, so I will ask you this.

Where are the people you think are the true Prophets the Bible speaks of being sent to us?

549 posted on 03/13/2008 11:08:45 AM PDT by fproy2222
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Enough has been said about people mis representing our Prophets and others being happy with half truths, so I will ask you this.

Where are the people you think are the true Prophets the Bible speaks of being sent to us?
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552 posted on 03/13/2008 11:11:52 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: fproy2222
Enough has been said about people mis representing our Prophets and others being happy with half truths, so I will ask you this.

Excuse me, the bible clearly warns us about false prophets and teachers as well as supplying a standard by which to judge and evaluate them by. If you like, we could go through smittie's prophecies one by one and see just how accurate they are/were.

So lets just cut to the quick here - are you going to tell me that all of his prophecies have come true just as he prophesied? Yes or No?

Where are the people you think are the true Prophets the Bible speaks of being sent to us?

Fair question. First bibical basis

1Co 12:28 - And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

The order has apostles first, then prophets - reverse of mormonism FWIW. Within this list is no reference to church leadership. Paul addresses that through his discussion of appointing leadership (bishops, elders, deacons, etc)

1Co 14:29 - Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

This indicates that the prophets were those in the congregation - read 1 Cor in greater length in context. Thus there was more than one prophet avaible per congregation - not one prophet overall churches.

Hebrews 1:1-2 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Jesus was the final prophet of the old testament mold. Yet old and new testament prophets were selected by the Holy Spirit and not man

2Pe 3:2 - That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

Again, prophets were the voice to the OT, in the NT the voice was Christ and the Apostles.

2Pe 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Christ in the gospels also warns to be watchful of false prophets, this is why prophecies should be judged (see above 1Co 14:29). As much as you seem to be whining about our bringing Smith's failed prophecies to light, we are commanded to do so. As a failed prophet, his other revelations from god are in the very least highly suspect.

So who are today's prophets - those chosen by the Holy Spirit to support the church(s) they are in to edify the body and not lead it.

563 posted on 03/13/2008 12:11:19 PM PDT by Godzilla (Today's mighty oak tree is just yesterdays nut who held it's ground.)
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