Posted on 03/08/2008 5:14:33 PM PST by Zakeet
Spanish-speakers are fueling growth in the local Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which recently opened new worship space on Tucson's predominantly Hispanic South Side.
Many local Mormon worshippers, like 47-year-old Juan Arroyo, converted to the faith from Catholicism while living in their native countries. Arroyo, a roofer who has four children, joined the church when he lived in Guadalajara, Mexico. He's been in the United States for seven years.
"I was missing something, and my life changed greatly after meeting the missionaries," he said in Spanish.
Nationally, the number of Spanish-speaking congregations in the Mormon church grew by 64 percent between 2000 and 2006. There are 639 such congregations in the United States.
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The church is growing quickly in Mexico.
Church officials say its presence there began in 1875 when Brigham Young, then denomination president, called on six missionaries from Salt Lake City to bring Spanish-language materials about the church to Mexico. In 1885, a group of nearly 400 colonists from Utah arrived at northern Mexico's Casas Grandes River. Mexico's first stake was created in Colonia Juárez in 1895. By 1912, more than 4,000 members had settled in Chihuahua and Sonora.
More than 1 million members now live in Mexico, a predominantly Catholic country with a population of about 108 million.
(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...
The poster is lacking in fundamental facts about the deeper things in the cult of Mormonism. The LDS work hard to keep that running as a current which they exploit. It is only later that ‘deeper’ things of the cultish beliefs would surface. As currently presenting herself, the poster would reject those hiden doctrines, but if cuaght up in Mormonism odds are she would sucumb. That is precisely why the LDS teach ‘milk before meat’, ‘never offer meat when milk will do.’ Deceit is at the very heart of Mormonism but the poster is unable to discern that presently.
hidden ... caught ... succumb ... is it time for coffee? Yeah!
But she seems to have no problem passing judgment on those who can.
Sorry! You will need to ask a Mormon. I am not Mormon.
It is one thing to post your contempt but to make up stories Is despicable!
Then post the TRUTH and quit complaining!
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This just SHOWS how PERSECUTED we are!!
Why, it is downright DANGEROUS to tell folks you Are a member of the LDS Organization®!
--MormonDude(Why does EVERYONE hate us??)
Anytime!
We agree; but the TYPE of 'spirit' that we are talking about is QUITE different.
Exactly! If you're not a Mormon you shouldn't go around repeating deceptive LDS comments. LDS say, "We no longer practice polygamy" knowing full well they don't fully believe that nonsense. (They've only "colonized" it by saying polygamy is restricted to Kolob & places like that).
It's tantamount to where if you went to a Mormon's house, and they say, "No, our family doesn't practice XYZ..." knowing full well, that if "family" was defined by the practices not only of the immediate family but of the extended family, such a statement could not be made.
So, when you wrote: If I do post, it's usually to say something well known such as the official LDS church does not practice polygamy... that's an example of repeating Mormon lies. (And lying isn't very becoming)
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this is an overall reply to how many posters act and not aimed at any one person.
As you read through the thread, you will be able to see them.
fred
And all they have to give up in return is their soul.
The misdirection ploy is becoming quite familiar from these LDSers. Accuse you directly, openly, then plead generic application. The poser cannot post what does not exist regarding your posts but he/she will try to create the impression that you are deceiving readers ... by posting the facts and quotes from the Mormonism founders/leaders!
Re. This is an overall reply to how many posters act and not aimed at any one person ... As you read through the thread, you will be able to see them.
Sorry, Fred. That won't do.
Resty and now you, have accused a group of individuals known generically as "Flying Inmans" of dishonesty.
For the benefit of persons who may be new to posts concerning the LDS faith, Flying Inmans is a derogatory term coined by LDS Members to brand persons who present the truth concerning Mormonism. [Anti-Mormon is another].Obviously, Flying Inmans cannot control what others may post. Nor do I have any control over what other Flying Inmans might say.In addition to myself, some of the other Flying Inmans who have responded to this thread include: Tennessee Nana, SkyPilot, SeaHawkFan, Greyfoxx39, Colorcountry, Svcw, P-Marlowe, Ansel12, Colorfornian, MHGinTN, and Elsie.
However, I personally strive to state facts when discussing Mormonism, along annotations in most cases. I know most of my alleged co-conspirator Flying Inmans attempt to follow the same standards.
Dishonesty is a serious allegation which has repeatedly leveled at Flying Inmans by LDS members. And people who make accusations should be prepared to back them up. Therefore, I repeat my earlier challenge found HERE, specifically:
Would you please provide me with as many examples as possible of instances where I personally lied, renamed something, or engaged in "gutter talk?"
As noted many times in the past, I would like to learn from my mistakes, and then issue the appropriate apologies and retractions.
Thanks.
/Zak
This way it is not PERSONAL and slips under the RM's radar.
We can tar a LOT more with our brush that way.
--MormonDude(Not YOU, specifically, but ALL them anti's are doing it!)
It may slip by the “personal” part of “making it personal” - but if abusive, it’ll land squarely in the “trouble-making” or “hate mongering” bucket where the consequences can be severe.
Periscope up.......one ping.
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YES IT WILL
as I originally said:
We find no problem with people who really want to talk to us about converting to their religion, we spend a lot of time doing it ourselves.
What we find offensive is when people leave out part of the truth to make a half-true lie , or when some one renames something, that we find important or sacred, so it sounds like gutter talk.
This in not directed directly at you, it is just that you post so many articles for the above to happen in.
You will also notice that since I have been bringing this up, there are fewer and fewer posters doing it, which we thank everyone for.
Fire and water damage repairs covered by insurance.
In other words, Zak, just go away and you won't have to worry about these accusations being made.
You will also notice that since I have been bringing this up, there are fewer and fewer posters doing it, which we thank everyone for.
Don't take the credit, Fred. Since Mitt lost the nomination, there have been fewer posters "doing it". No need to thank "everyone" either, there are other factors at work.
There has also been a shift in the atmosphere on the religion forum regarding the posting of mormon threads. The loss of posting privilege and locking of threads is an daily possibility, and the result is an effective dampening of FRee give and take which I'm guessing causes not a few "high fives".
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