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To: narses
Himmler and Goebbels worshipped in a Catholic church with their entire families until their deaths.

Some vague, post-dated excommunication is almost laughable.

You guys need to get hold of some unbiased history books and read them.

266 posted on 03/08/2008 3:59:40 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Some vague, post-dated excommunication is almost laughable.”

Not vague — ALL Nazi Party members were excommunicated.

Not post dated, 1931 PRE dated the war and the Nazi power seizure.

You might try reading Toland and Shirer to start. The descent of the Nazi Party into pagan occultism is well documented. Your continued efforts to paint the Nazi Party as endorsed by and allied with the Catholic Church is post war propaganda of the ugliest kind. Your continued lies truly document who you are. It ain’t a pretty picture “Dr”.


268 posted on 03/08/2008 4:11:35 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Even Albert Speer, writing in Inside the Third Reich, p. 96 said, “Hitler never formally ended his church membership, but according to Albert Speer, “he had no real attachment to it.”

The Protestant Reich Church was formed by Adolf Hitler in 1933, by merging 28 regional churches into one Church. Does that sound like a “Catholic” idea?


270 posted on 03/08/2008 4:16:53 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Hitler’s private statements are more clear. There are negative statements about Christianity reported by Hitler’s intimates, Goebbels, Speer, and Bormann.[18] Joseph Goebbels, for example, notes in a diary entry in 1939: “The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay.” Albert Speer reports a similar statement: “You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”[19] In the Hossbach Memorandum Hitler is recorded as saying that “only the disintegrating effect of Christianity, and the symptoms of age” were responsible for the demise of the Roman empire.[20] In 1941, Hitler praised an anti-Christian tract from 362CE, Julian’s Against the Galileans, saying “I really hadn’t known how clearly a man like Julian had judged Christians and Christianity, one must read this...”[21] He was reported to say that religion should die on its own accord.[22]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_beliefs


271 posted on 03/08/2008 4:17:48 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Himmler and Goebbels worshipped in a Catholic church with their entire families until their deaths.

I'll assume you have some inside information, then. Which Church did they attend and where was it located?

285 posted on 03/09/2008 11:02:40 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; narses
Himmler and Goebbels worshipped in a Catholic church with their entire families until their deaths.

Would this have been a kin to Kennedy and Kerry today? IOW, they claim to be RC's but support abortion and gay marriage.

291 posted on 03/09/2008 11:33:45 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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