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Catholic League: McCain Embraces Bigot [John Hagee]
Catholic Online ^ | 2/29/2008 | Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights

Posted on 02/28/2008 4:40:37 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: narses; Dr. Eckleburg
“DR” E ignores history and works hard at fallacious arguments to tar the Church that he despises. Very odd behavior.

If we are going to be straightforward there is plenty of that to go around.

If we were to go back in history we can sight numerous cases where the RCC persecuted other Christians. It's a long history. However, after the Reformation using the power of the state to enforce it's will came to an end.

In Germany I think the RCC never promoted or supported any of the persecutions. Rather I think it's more likely that it's interactions with the Nazis were along the lines of the political and what they could do that was in the best interest of the RCC.

301 posted on 03/09/2008 12:05:18 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights

The political bottom line is that the GOP is more tolerant of anti-Catholicism than antisemitism or racial slurs.


302 posted on 03/09/2008 12:10:05 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: wmfights

Facts are facts. Using lies and logicval fallacies is part of bigotry.


303 posted on 03/09/2008 12:11:59 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: wmfights
Kennedy and Kerry, as loathsome as they and their pro-abortion views are, don't compare to the intentional, Satan-inspired atrocities personally performed at the direction of Goebbels and Himmler.

The fact is there is something within human nature that, unless regenerated by God, will always "love death."

And there are few examples of this more clear than the genocide of the Jews.

304 posted on 03/09/2008 12:12:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: narses
I believe a case could be made for Hitler's atrocities being furthered or inspired more by Reformers than Catholics:

the National Socialists displayed [Luther's ] On the Jews and Their Lies during Nuremberg rallies

305 posted on 03/09/2008 12:18:45 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

The real issue was the paganism and occultic evil that the Nazi hierarchs embraced. Thule and others. Read Hitler’s comments on religion I posted above.


306 posted on 03/09/2008 12:22:27 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: TradicalRC
XS>It seems that the catholics on this thread do not show the Chesed ( lovingkindness ) of Yah'shua ( Jesus ).

Catholics love the whole Christ; fully God and fully man. Christ who called Peter Satan, who fashioned a whip of cords and kicked over the tables, who called the Pharisees liars, hypocrites and broods of vipers. Who called the pagan woman a dog and cursed the fig tree. We believe in the real Jesus, not merely an ideal Jesus.

281 posted on 03/09/2008 11:48:19 AM MDT by TradicalRC

So you feel sufficiently righteous to equate yourself with the creator of the universe ?

Mazol Tov !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
308 posted on 03/09/2008 12:26:27 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: narses

Yes, I’ve read a great deal about Hitler’s religion, Thule, etc. If we’re looking for his “spirituality” that’s where it’s to be found.

However, he also used propaganda to bring the German populace along with him on antiSemitism. And, again, I think a greater case can be made for German Lutheranism being more useful to him than the Catholics.

thanks for your reply..


310 posted on 03/09/2008 12:38:00 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ex-snook
The political bottom line is that the GOP is more tolerant of anti-Catholicism than antisemitism or racial slurs.

Huh?

312 posted on 03/09/2008 12:42:29 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: narses
Facts are facts. Using lies and logicval fallacies is part of bigotry.

I guess claiming victim hood is the new thing.

313 posted on 03/09/2008 12:44:04 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Kennedy and Kerry, as loathsome as they and their pro-abortion views are, don't compare to the intentional, Satan-inspired atrocities personally performed at the direction of Goebbels and Himmler.

I know.

I meant from the stand point that they claim to be RC's yet don't adher to their churches teachings and are not in good standing. The same could have been said of the Nazis who claimed to be RC's.

314 posted on 03/09/2008 12:47:14 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights

Hagee


315 posted on 03/09/2008 12:48:06 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: kellynla; narses; Hacksaw
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal!

Do not use profanity.

Do not ignore the Moderators.

317 posted on 03/09/2008 1:08:10 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: XeniaSt

“anti-Semitism?”

ROFLMAO

That will be news to the Jewish U.S. Marines I served with and brought back to America in one piece.

We’re still waiting for some kind of “thank you” from you for the many Catholics who fought & died for Jews in WWII.

But, I won’t be holding my breath!


318 posted on 03/09/2008 1:08:17 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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