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To: restornu; pby

Very odd. I have never seen a Christain refuse to answer anyone on the question of Salvation. Is there a need for some secret handshake? Is this a Gnostic secret? Here is the Catholic view:

The Council of Trent describes the process of salvation from sin in the case of an adult with great minuteness (Sess. VI, v-vi).

It begins with the grace of God which touches a sinner’s heart, and calls him to repentance. This grace cannot be merited; it proceeds solely from the love and mercy of God. Man may receive or reject this inspiration of God, he may turn to God or remain in sin. Grace does not constrain man’s free will.

Thus assisted the sinner is disposed for salvation from sin; he believes in the revelation and promises of God, he fears God’s justice, hopes in his mercy, trusts that God will be merciful to him for Christ’s sake, begins to love God as the source of all justice, hates and detests his sins.

This disposition is followed by justification itself, which consists not in the mere remission of sins, but in the sanctification and renewal of the inner man by the voluntary reception of God’s grace and gifts, whence a man becomes just instead of unjust, a friend instead of a foe and so an heir according to hope of eternal life. This change happens either by reason of a perfect act of charity elicited by a well disposed sinner or by virtue of the Sacrament either of Baptism or of Penance according to the condition of the respective subject laden with sin. The Council further indicates the causes of this change. By the merit of the Most Holy Passion through the Holy Spirit, the charity of God is shed abroad in the hearts of those who are justified.

Against the heretical tenets of various times and sects we must hold

that the initial grace is truly gratuitous and supernatural;
that the human will remains free under the influence of this grace;
that man really cooperates in his personal salvation from sin;
that by justification man is really made just, and not merely declared or reputed so;
that justification and sanctification are only two aspects of the same thing, and not ontologically and chronologically distinct realities;
that justification excludes all mortal sin from the soul, so that the just man is no way liable to the sentence of death at God’s judgment-seat.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13407a.htm

So what is the LDS view?


236 posted on 02/22/2008 4:50:03 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13407a.htm

So what is the LDS view?

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Except for your saying that God is angry, you pretty well have it.

284 posted on 02/22/2008 6:10:25 PM PST by fproy2222 (Are you trying to convert us to Christ, as you understand Him, or just to be another nasty poster?)
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To: narses
 
So what is the LDS view?

 

 

 
 
 
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

 
 Joseph Smith
 
 

334 posted on 02/22/2008 6:58:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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