Indeed!
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Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet
They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.
"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."
H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.
"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."
Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.
Nice of you to say lets pray it continues!:)
Remember; if'n ya tell yer sweetie that they are one-in-a-million, with over 6 BILLION people on Earth, there will be over 3000 just like yer sweetie!!
And this is why you guys are NOT considered Christian.
Indeed!
Who typed this for you?
One can't ask for much more than this.
We do, however, need to recognize the difference between READING the bible, and UNDERSTANDING the bible.
In the READING part, since hardly anyone of us can actually DO that, we rely on 'experts' who study these things for years, to translate the language we can't read, into one we can.
Of course, there will be difference of thought over just what some passages or words really mean in the old language.
Problems arise if translators use what they THINK the text means, according to what they BELIEVE already, when they come to these problem areas.
About the only thing most of us plain, ol' Seekers can do, is to rely on what the he MAJORITY of translators, from a variety of background, agree upon.
No matter how MANY translations there are, each one should go back to the earliest known ancient manuscripts to use as a base.
We should let the Bible determine what our belief is, and not let our 'belief' determine for us what the Bible says.
| JST REVELATION 12 The woman the Church, the child [the kingdom of God], the rod of iron [the word of God], the dragon [Satan], and Michael are explained. The war in heaven is continued on the earth. (compare Revelation 12: 1-17; Doctrine and Covenants 77) 1 And there appeared a great sign in heaven, in the likeness of things on the earth; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 And the woman being with child, cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And she brought for a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up unto God and his throne. 4 And there appeared another sign in heaven; and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman which was delivered, ready to devour her child after it was born. 5 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore years. 6 And there was war in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought against Michael; 7 And the dragon prevailed not against Michael, neither the child, nor the woman which was the church of God, who had been delivered of her pains, and brought forth the kingdom of our God and his Christ. 8 Neither was there place found in heaven for the great dragon, who was cast out; that old serpent called the devil, and also called Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out into earth; and his angels were cast out with him. 9 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ; 10 For the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 For they have overcome him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; for they loved not their own lives, but kept the testimony even unto death. Therefore, rejoice O heavens, and ye that dwell in them. 12 And after these things I heard another voice saying, Woe to the inhabiters of the earth, yea, and they who dwell upon the islands of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13 For when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 Therefore, to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might flee into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent casteth out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helpeth the woman, and the earth openeth her mouth, and swalloweth up the flood which the dragon casteth out of his mouth. 17 Therefore, the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. |
King James Version
Revelation 12
1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. |
Agreed; but when all of the EVIDENCE is presented to those who are in an Organization founded on such desception, one would think that they'd move to an area where these problems never did exist.
You still do not understand.
He was talked to DIRECTLY BY GOD, who TOLD him what to change.
It's called REVELATION!!
If you don't believe ME; just CHECK IT OUT!!
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPIC,HPIC:2005-18,HPIC:en&q=god+told+me+to+do+it%2e
--MormonDude(Wait!! I hear a voice!)
FLDS = FUNDAMENTALIST Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
It sure LOOKS mighty similar!
Why; they even use the name of JESUS in their organizations title!
I'll bet if you asked them they'd say that they just love Jesus with all their hearts and He saves them.
Yup!!!
Dats jus whut we all believe in Colorado City, alright!
FundyDude(Why can't I be a Murmoan; too?)
Use Scripture; ANY 'scripture', to show us SANCTION from the Lord.
I have answered your question before fred. It seems you will not accept my answer.
I trust God, that it will be to His glory.
That is all I need speculate on.
Actually; it's in the KJV of the Bible that we ALL claim to know, love and FOLLOW!
And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Mark 16:17-18
Kinda looks like a COMMAND to me: They SHALL take up serpents!
I'll just bet YOUR's is HOT PINK!!
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One of the fastest growing!
I’ll mess with our lil Indiana Brown Snakes, but I think I’ll stay a bit farther away from that rattler I aggravated at Castle Rock, Kansas!
It was about a 5’ bad boy!
(I did stay about 6 feet away!)
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