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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: MHGinTN
Some believe that they don't have to worry about hell, because they are "doing all that they can do", including rituals and ordinances.

They have nothing to seek forgiveness for, and no fear for their eternal souls. How nice for them! NOT!

1,881 posted on 03/02/2008 5:12:20 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: SkyPilot

LOLFOTF


1,882 posted on 03/02/2008 5:13:49 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: MHGinTN
When the original author of that Sermon ‘preached’ that—and he repeated it many times—he would just read the text to the congregation ... and the front of the church would fill with people seeking forgiveness even before he would finish!

(Psalms 19:9 KJV) The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

(Psalms 34:11 KJV) Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD.

(Psalms 111:10 KJV) The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

(Proverbs 1:7 KJV) The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

(Proverbs 1:29 KJV) For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:

(Proverbs 2:5 KJV) Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.

(Proverbs 8:13 KJV) The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

(Proverbs 9:10 KJV) The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

(Proverbs 10:27 KJV) The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.

(Proverbs 14:26 KJV) In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge.

(Proverbs 14:27 KJV) The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

(Proverbs 15:16 KJV) Better is little with the fear of the LORD than great treasure and trouble therewith.

(Proverbs 15:33 KJV) The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.

(Proverbs 16:6 KJV) By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.

(Proverbs 19:23 KJV) The fear of the LORD tendeth to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.

(Proverbs 22:4 KJV) By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.

(Proverbs 23:17 KJV) Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the LORD all the day long.

1,883 posted on 03/02/2008 5:14:41 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: restornu
Not interested!

Have you no fear of God?

1,884 posted on 03/02/2008 5:15:25 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: restornu
LOLFOTF

Your nervoous laughter shines through - but I know why you are nervous.

1,885 posted on 03/02/2008 5:17:20 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: P-Marlowe

I am not into retrograde!


1,886 posted on 03/02/2008 5:19:59 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: restornu
PM: Have you no fear of God?

Resty: I am not into retrograde!

Is that a No?

1,887 posted on 03/02/2008 5:22:46 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: greyfoxx39

My Pastor’s sermon today was on the glaring differences between the start of Galatians, and James’ little strawy epistle. She emphasized the truth that only faith in Jesus Christ will save, and that ANY THING added to that demeans the Grace of God in Christ. It was a powerful sermon.


1,888 posted on 03/02/2008 5:30:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I see that spirit of misuse is still with you!


1,889 posted on 03/02/2008 5:45:16 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

FM


1,890 posted on 03/02/2008 5:46:01 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: restornu
From J. Edwards' text:

It is everlasting wrath. It would be dreadful to suffer this fierceness and wrath of Almighty God one moment; but you must suffer it to all eternity. There will be no end to this exquisite horrible misery. When you look forward, you shall see a long for ever, a boundless duration before you, which will swallow up your thoughts, and amaze your soul; and you will absolutely despair of ever having any deliverance, any end, any mitigation, any rest at all. You will know certainly that you must wear out long ages, millions of millions of ages, in wrestling and conflicting with this almighty merciless vengeance; and then when you have so done, when so many ages have actually been spent by you in this manner, you will know that all is but a point to what remains. So that your punishment will indeed be infinite. Oh, who can express what the state of a soul in such circumstances is! All that we can possibly say about it, gives but a very feeble, faint representation of it; it is inexpressible and inconceivable: For "who knows the power of God's anger?"
How dreadful is the state of those that are daily and hourly in the danger of this great wrath and infinite misery!

Anyone believing they can 'do all that they can do to be worthy of eventual Salvation' to escape this wrath ... Satan wants nothing more than to pull you down into the pit of undying agony where he shall suffer forever and ever. Only the mercy of God delivers from this eternal wrath. There is nothing but throwing your soul on His mercy. If you wait until 'all that you can do', you will be lost, eternally.

1,891 posted on 03/02/2008 5:48:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: restornu
I see that spirit of misuse is still with you!

Always judging others motives, eh resty?

1,892 posted on 03/02/2008 5:51:39 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: pby; Old Mountain man
OMM...probably needs more time..........

Am I right, OMM?

1,893 posted on 03/02/2008 6:01:27 PM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: P-Marlowe

Amazing how one tries to blur past and current action as being judgmental!


1,894 posted on 03/02/2008 6:01:59 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: restornu
Amazing how one tries to blur past and current action as being judgmental!

What are you talking about?

1,895 posted on 03/02/2008 6:03:22 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

interrogatory


1,896 posted on 03/02/2008 6:07:31 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: tantiboh
You may have learned what adjectives mean....I applaud you!

What you apparently haven't learned discerned/know/understand/get...is the great and deep deception of mormonism.

I pray daily for your eyes to have the scales removed.........

1,897 posted on 03/02/2008 6:08:11 PM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: restornu

What are you talking about?


1,898 posted on 03/02/2008 6:08:47 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: MHGinTN

No interested you enjoy wallow in it!


1,899 posted on 03/02/2008 6:09:29 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: MHGinTN
It seems that Mormons neither fear the Lord nor believe in the Wrath of God.
1,900 posted on 03/02/2008 7:02:08 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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