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Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet
They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.
"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."
H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.
"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."
Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.
Oh, I'm crushed. BTW, not a word in any of those sez Terrestial or telestial or celestial (unless you are using that special pebble, then it can say anything you want it to.)
Got it......BUY.....MORE......OVALTINE......
OMM is back - clean up on isle 9
Given the nature of his writing, I think that his return was only a quick post and run.
Yep, and use little words.
I don't think so.
BTW I think this is the longest a Mormon thread has ever gone without being locked or removed.
Congratulations to all you pigs out there who have worked so hard to keep the discussion civil.
OO, mere wordplay is fun; the mature and witty kind is a practice which I would recommend to anyone. In my time engaging in such trivial pursuits, however, I’ve learned that adjectives mean things.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/puerile
I have no clue what you are baiting me about stored data
but I am sure you can’t wait to do your thing!
You have been around since 2000 and are telling us you have not read our umteen answers until we were blue in the face!
LOL
Really!? You allow the poster named retornu to post a stretch to the truth(actaully a lie, which only help by a mod hides the3 image she posted), then you strike my post wherre I call her on her deceit? ... And we expect even handed monitoring of these threrads? What a joke! You have the edit button. Put some ice on it, I am outta here.
When did Jim hire a Mormon to monitor the religion threads?
I will specifically answer this question, if you specifically answer one of my questions?
Deal?
Well, I already know what your answer will be, and I suspect you know mine, but I'll play along. Deal.
Warning though. I'm leaving in 5 hours for a 2 day shoot. I'll try to respond if I have any downtime, but no guarantees. For sure I'll be back Sunday.
You really must show more patience and possibly get a life outside of FR.
1 Nephi 1:2
Yea, I make a record in the language of my father, which consists of the learning of the Jews and the language of the Egyptians.
Mosiah 1:
4 For it were not possible that our father, Lehi, could have remembered all these things, to have taught them to his children, except it were for the help of these plates; for he having been taught in the language of the Egyptians therefore he could read these engravings, and teach them to his children, that thereby they could teach them to their children, and so fulfilling the commandments of God, even down to this present time.
5 I say unto you, my sons, were it not for these things, which have been kept and preserved by the hand of God, that we might read and understand of his mysteries, and have his commandments always before our eyes, that even our fathers would have dwindled in unbelief, and we should have been like unto our brethren, the Lamanites, who know nothing concerning these things, or even do not believe them when they are taught them, because of the traditions of their fathers, which are not correct.
6 O my sons, I would that ye should remember that these sayings are true, and also that these records are true. And behold, also the plates of Nephi, which contain the records and the sayings of our fathers from the time they left Jerusalem until now, and they are true; and we can know of their surety because we have them before our eyes.
Mormon 9:
32 And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech.
33 And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record.
34 But the Lord knoweth the things which we have written, and also that none other people knoweth our language; and because that none other people knoweth our language, therefore he hath prepared means for the interpretation thereof.
35 And these things are written that we may rid our garments of the blood of our brethren, who have dwindled in unbelief.
Travel safely. The Lord look after you.
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I know the difficult job the moderators have her, but I have to raise the flag again here and point out you are not being even handed on this thread.
I pointed out OMMs calling someone a liar in one thread, and you did nothing. I also wish I had a dollar for everytime he used the word "liar" in this thread.
Sir/Ma'am - MHG is raising a fair criticism. As I pointed out in post #1,317:
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Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.
You mean like this one:
Glad to know there is always an idiot out there that thinks he knows what I think.
1,218 posted on 02/27/2008 6:53:24 PM EST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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I understand you can't chase after each and every post, and these threads can be very difficult to monitor. I must say, however, that I am bothered by this perceived double standard.
I do wish to thank you for earlier telling some posters (who have the Abuse Button on speed dial) to cool it.
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