FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"

KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

[Zakeet]

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.

[Reno232]

No, I don’t discount it at all. It’s one scholars opinion. Do you discount the refutation contained in the article I cited that includes recent discoveries? Your quote is not of recent nature. Mine is. That’s not to say that Mine is correct, but of more recent vintage. It would be interesting to hear Baer’s refutation of the article.

[MHGinTN]

You make the mistake of believing the posted article is designed to actually get at the truth, when in reality it is designed to create as much dissonance as can be exploited with the heresies in mormonism. Sowing doubt and fabricating ‘areas of gray’ to be exploited is what mormonism apologetics is all about. They do not try to prove smithian fabrications, only fabricate ambiguities into which/through which to sow their peculiar religious beliefs.

[ansel12]

" Muslims outnumber us Christians by a wide margin & they feel their experts are far more correct than ours. " ============================================================

[P-Marlowe]

So you completely discount the quote that I posted relative to the correct translation?

The Mormons have been grasping at straws since 1968 to try to prove that anything that Joseph Smith allegedly translated into the Book of Abraham can be found on those scrolls that Joseph Smith bought. The fact is that all they can do is point to things that might have some similarities and say, "See this proves the Book of Abraham was translated from these scrolls."

But the fact remains that Egyptologists are unanimous in their opinion that it is impossible to translate those scrolls into anything even closely resembling anything in the Book of Abraham.

The Book of Abraham is a fraud. Nobody who has ever objectively looked at the evidence has ever concluded otherwise. And nobody ever will.

About the only thing that Joseph Smith got right was that, yes, those scrolls were from Egypt.

[Reno232]

So, is it your opinion that language experts always agree, especially on ancient dialects? I think the article I cited makes a very compelling argument against this opinion expressed, wouldn’t you agree? I’m not saying you should agree w/ the article, but it does put forth a very compelling argument, imho.

[Reno232]

I rest my case MHG. Have a great weekend my FRiend.

[Elsie]

Your the one that knows it all do your own homework!

I did.

I posted it here.

All the lurkers can see it.

They CAN'T see anything past your weak denials.

[Elsie]

Sorry I can’t help but laugh at all of the bloopers that are made, it show that none who post this stuff don’t understand it!

Sorry; but since you post NOTHING to refute it, I guess the lurkers will learn the wrong stuff about what the LDS Organization, Inc. stands for.

[pby]

"Professional Egyptologists to whom the Alphabet and Grammar was submitted for examination were quick to point out that the material in Joseph Smith's notebook bore no resemblance at all to any correct understanding of the ancient Egyptian language. As one of them, I. E. Edwards, put it, the whole work was 'largely a piece of imagination and lacking in any kind of scientific value.' He added that it reminded him of 'the writings of psychic practitioners which are sometimes sent to me.'" (By His Own hand Upon Papyrus, pages 42-43)

What do you do with the fact that Joseph Smith translation of the funeral papyri includes Abraham and that egyptologists state, conclusively, that Abraham is mentioned nowhere in the funeral papyri.

Does this not constitute a huge contradiction that calls the entire translation into question?

[Elsie]

 

 

 

 

To: Elsie

You are, perchance, Ignorant: Invincibly so.

Not entirely sure but you perchance are likely to be a homo.

1,688 posted on 03/01/2008 2:00:42 PM CST by Invincibly Ignorant

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You do NOT have to reveal your dreams on FR.

[P-Marlowe]

What do you do with the fact that Joseph Smith translation of the funeral papyri includes Abraham and that egyptologists state, conclusively, that Abraham is mentioned nowhere in the funeral papyri.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

[Elsie]

IT IS A DOCUMENTED, AND PROVEN, FRAUD COMMITTED BY JOSEPH SMITH!

[Elsie]

Can you save the entire thread, Elsie?

Why?There'll be more!

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It would be too time consuming.

There is no need to keep a bunch of counterfeit money on hand to train cashiers with.

Merely show them the REAL stuff, and ANY counterfeit is easy to spot.

Same principal applies here.

[Elsie]

The middle finger is VERY long.

Did YOU see it flashed just a while ago??

;^)

[Elsie]

Sorry, OMm...your words are posted for all to see.

It would appear that SOME of the LAughing Loon's stuff is evaporating!

[Elsie]

Now you are sounding like a little whiner.

Oh wait...

I thought you typed weiner!

[Reno232]

Unanimity? Surely you jest. You might find some discord w/ that idea as you go to the following link:

http://www2.ida.net/graphics/shirtail/papyri.htm

Again, some very compelling arguments against the anti’s propositions & those of the so called “experts”.

[Elsie]

Give us the specific details with documentation.

LOL!!!

ROTFLMSMAO!!!

--MormonDude(It's TRUE! Laughter makes a heart merry!)

Ooops: gotta have a lot of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s

[Reno232]

Did you read the article? Try reading the links I just gave to P-Marlowe as well. They might prove to be very enlightening.

[Elsie]

http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences/2006_Book_of_Abraham_201.html

 

But they are NOT  an official arm of the LDS religion.

 

so, really, who CARES what they have to say?

 

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