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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: Old Mountain man
You would know about that, not me.

Please provide citations for my name-calling. (you aren't projecting...are you?)

1,561 posted on 02/29/2008 8:03:42 PM PST by pby
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To: Old Mountain man
Plural marriage to teenage girls is illegal. I do not condone violations of the law.

Is it child abuse?

Did joseph Smith commit child abuse?

1,562 posted on 02/29/2008 8:06:52 PM PST by pby
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To: Old Mountain man; SkyPilot
Apparently you believe that it doesn’t matter whether you murder or not, you are saved. Goodness, you have a surprise in store for you, don’t you.

David and Moses were murderers.

Did the blood of Christ fail to cover their sins?

1,563 posted on 02/29/2008 8:10:59 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Old Mountain man
I never said that and you know it.

The evidence is in your post...

Go back and read posts 88, 89, 1033 and 1037.

You can deny it...but your words are posted for all to see.

1,564 posted on 02/29/2008 8:13:49 PM PST by pby
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To: Old Mountain man

Bwaahahahahahaha, astonishing disconnect there ‘old fella’.


1,565 posted on 02/29/2008 8:15:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Godzilla
OMM is back, reality spill in the produce section.

And...not just for a post and run!

1,566 posted on 02/29/2008 8:15:40 PM PST by pby
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To: pby; Old Mountain man
Is it child abuse?

Yes

Did joseph Smith commit child abuse?

Yes.

That wasn't too hard.

1,567 posted on 02/29/2008 8:16:17 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Old Mountain man
I preach the gospel of repentence.

You are a preacher?

1,568 posted on 02/29/2008 8:17:13 PM PST by pby
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To: pby
And...not just for a post and run!

Oooops, looks like he's run out again.

1,569 posted on 02/29/2008 8:17:26 PM PST by Godzilla (My ancestors were humans. Sorry to hear about yours.)
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To: pby
Tell you what, I'll be the Mormon and you can ask me questions.

I promise to give you straight answers.

1,570 posted on 02/29/2008 8:18:54 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; pby

This should be interesting! And it’s a good idea since you were a mormon for so long. [Getting comfortable for a good lurk.]


1,571 posted on 02/29/2008 8:23:07 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: restornu; Zakeet; MHGinTN; FastCoyote
Joseph Smith was annoited servant of Jesus Christ who made him a prophet,

No, he wasn't.

Your religion was conjured up by Constantine who established your doctrine through political Clergy down through the ages none of it ever received a stamp of approval from Jesus Christ!

LOL!

Constantine?

When, ever, EVER, did I say I relied on that authority?

The only authority is Jesus Christ, and His gospel. There is no "restored" 19th Century gospel by some guy from Upstate NY who had 33 "wives."

And that isn't even the complete list of his "wives."

Resty - you disappoint me. You never answer a direct question. You try and slip and slither out of evidence presented to you directly about Smith and your LDS church.

Then, you turn on a dime when you think you have an exit.

All of the posts to you, and other LDS (Mormon) adherents is having an affect, isn't it?

1,572 posted on 02/29/2008 8:24:51 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: P-Marlowe
Tell you what, I'll be the Mormon and you can ask me questions. I promise to give you straight answers.

After what God saved you out of, P-Marlowe, which I am thankful for...I don't want you to have go back!

1,573 posted on 02/29/2008 8:25:57 PM PST by pby
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To: P-Marlowe
David and Moses were murderers. Did the blood of Christ fail to cover their sins?

Good question.

Many people raise that. "How were people saved before Christ was born?"

The same way were are saved now - by faith.

There is a new "rule" now - Christ.

This is the Church Age.

1,574 posted on 02/29/2008 8:26:46 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Old Mountain man; pby
You still wilfully do not understand the doctrine do you? Then you condone murder?

HA! Are you going to try that on me?

Your little tricks don't work on me. I am not one of your LDS subjects. You are used to barking your orders, and having your subjects bow.

Doctrine? Restornu says there is no LDS doctrine. Would you like me to sent you the post number?

There is a big "surprise" in store for you too.

And it is not good.

1,575 posted on 02/29/2008 8:30:34 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: pby; Old Mountain man; Godzilla; SkyPilot
Is it child abuse?

Did joseph Smith commit child abuse?

Sigh...

I thought that he was going to call it child abuse (like it is)...but he just can't do it.

Typing those letters...Y-E-S C-H-I-L-D A-B-U-S-E...brings home the reality of who/what Joseph Smith really was.

1,576 posted on 02/29/2008 8:31:53 PM PST by pby
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To: SkyPilot
What part of "I do not care who started it" do you not understand?
1,577 posted on 02/29/2008 8:50:40 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Are you perchance LDS?


1,578 posted on 02/29/2008 8:56:47 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Are you perchance LDS?

Are you perchance Christian?

1,579 posted on 02/29/2008 9:02:40 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Would you like to answer for the rel mod?


1,580 posted on 02/29/2008 9:03:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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