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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: restornu
Joseph marriages were sanction by the Lord

Then you can SHOW some Scripture to prove what you've typed is not a lie.

1,061 posted on 02/25/2008 4:57:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Plural was an ordinance that was sanctioning in the scriptures you can not erase that...

Then YOU ought to be able to FIND it!

1,062 posted on 02/25/2008 4:59:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
...Ex is still doing it...

If you LEAVE our precious Organization (the ONLY one with Authority, I might add) to do it; then you are some kind of vile sinner.

If you STAY in our Organization and do it; THEN you are a vile HYPocrIt!

--MormonDude(I am SO worthy!)

1,063 posted on 02/25/2008 5:02:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

Is there a problem here?

History of the Church, vol. 6, pg. 111, “Section 1 - Be it ordained by the City Council of Nauvoo, that the Mayor [Joseph Smith] of the city is hereby authorized to sell or give spirits of any quantity as he in his wisdom shall judge to be for the health and comfort, or convenience of such travelers or other persons as shall visit his house from time to time.”


1,064 posted on 02/25/2008 5:02:46 AM PST by bonfire
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To: Elsie

Joe Smith also DENIED he practiced polygamy. Guess his lies were also sanctioned by God?


1,065 posted on 02/25/2008 5:05:11 AM PST by bonfire
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To: restornu
So unless there are offical document and not just accusations like the McCain/NYT affair it has no legs with me!
Iszat so!?
 
Well; you sure BELIEVE the FOLLOWING with no evidence!!!

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.” 
 
 

1,066 posted on 02/25/2008 5:05:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
What do you have in your Skeleton Closet Nic?:)

Why do you want to know?

Galatians 6:1
Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted

1,067 posted on 02/25/2008 5:20:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo
It’s a fact that while Joseph Smith was married to multiple wives, multiple times over he committed adultery by “marrying” women who were still married to other men who were alive.

So WHAT!!??!!??

We do not DO that any more!

--MormonDude(An angel came from heaven and told us not to!! [didn't he? she? it?] )

1,068 posted on 02/25/2008 5:22:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
 
I never said anything about sinn about you or anyone here so stop with the insituations...
 
Note to others:
 
 
In the MORMON mind, a SKELTON in the CLOSET   does NOT mean SIN!

 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 

1,069 posted on 02/25/2008 5:25:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Bible scripture only please

Good luck!

1,070 posted on 02/25/2008 5:25:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
You know nothing but standing on the last rung on the ladder!

Sounds like OMM is feeding you your lines! ;^)

1,071 posted on 02/25/2008 5:26:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo
Yet another slur.

But, very skillful!

If, however, you merely stood on the FIRST rung of the ladder...

1,072 posted on 02/25/2008 5:28:23 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Mountain man

Well said....


1,073 posted on 02/25/2008 5:29:05 AM PST by rrrod
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To: MHGinTN
‘Blueberry Essie’

Whooo!

For a quick moment I thought you might have found one of the skelatons in MY closet!

1,074 posted on 02/25/2008 5:29:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
to big should read ‘too big’ ... that naner puddin’ is calling me!

Nanner Nanner!


1,075 posted on 02/25/2008 5:30:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pby
 
 


It was allegedly commanded by God but had to be kept secret, especially from Emma.


 
 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.

1,076 posted on 02/25/2008 5:33:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rrrod
Well said....

What do you think of Doctrine and Covenants section 132?

1,077 posted on 02/25/2008 5:36:53 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: bonfire
Mayor [Joseph Smith] of the city is hereby authorized to sell or give spirits of any quantity as he in his wisdom shall judge

Joseph Smith also opened a saloon in his Nauvoo mansion ...

Emma was out of town at the time, and threw a fit when she returned. Joseph insisted on keeping the bar open because it was making him a small fortune. Emma held her ground arguing she would not raise their children in that type of environment; besides how would it look for a prophet of god to own a dram shop.

Emma moved out with the children until Joseph relented.

You can read more about that HERE.

... and Brigham Young owned a distillery

Brigham also drank coffee, dipped snuff, and chewed tobacco.

You can read more about that HERE.

1,078 posted on 02/25/2008 5:41:25 AM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: MHGinTN

Gonna add these to my recipe collection...I love blueberries.


1,079 posted on 02/25/2008 5:45:28 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Bill Richardson: Billions for boondoggles; Not one red cent for Jenny Craig.)
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To: greyfoxx39

1,080 posted on 02/25/2008 5:48:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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