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To: Salvation

I thank you for the list of verses that supposedly support purgatory - I’ve wondered about it. Here’s how I see these verses in their Biblical context:

Luke 12:58-59 - is a hypothetical about earthly justice.

1 Cor 3:15 - this passage (from verse 10) talks about the rewards or lack thereof a saint has on judgment day. No post salvation good works, no reward - saved by grace but, as we might say to indicate a close shave, by the skin of this teeth.

Mt 5:25-26 - same account as Luke 12:58 - 59.

Heb 12:6 - 11 - talks about the discipline of God, compared to that of earthly fathers.

Mt 12:31 - 32 - a warning to Pharisees who credited miracles of Christ to the Devil.

1 Pet 3:18-20 - Limbo isn’t mentioned. Christ died once for the ungodly to redeem us and preached to “spirits in prison” - the meaning of which is not clear though men argue continually.

1 Pet 4:6 - All men are considered “dead in sins”, spiritually dead, unless redeemed by God (see Romans 7:1-6).

Rev 21:27 - all who are redeemed by and are in Christ are made clean by His blood, fit for heaven (Romans 3:21 - 26).

Heb 12:23 - The spirit of everyman justified by Christ is pure, complete, perfect; fit for heaven.

Col 1:24 - Paul speaks of his own suffering on behalf of Christ and the church.

2 Sam 12:13-14 - David is told how he will suffer during his earthly life for his sin of murder and adultery.

2 Mac 12:43-46 - not Scripture.

2 Tim 1:15 -18 - Paul praying for the family of a brother in Christ who is and has served with him.

1 Jn 5:14-17 - Nobody has a definite answer to what a “sin unto death” is. But John’s letter does make clear that “All unrighteousness is sin”.

In none of these verses does God reveal anything akin to purgatory. While a couple are unclear on meaning, purgatory needs a firm and clear foundation in Scripture in order to stand as a doctrine.

It’s a basic tenant of Biblical interpretation that doctrines are clearly stated - not based on a verse or two that are less than clear in their meaning.


13 posted on 02/12/2008 6:11:47 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

YOPIOS — Your Own Personal Interpretation Of Scripture.

(Not always accurate, in my opinion.) I’ll take what the theologians who have studied the Bible and the issue say. Thanks anyway.


14 posted on 02/12/2008 6:21:12 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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