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To: colorcountry

It doesn’t say what you claim. It speaks only of recognition of baptism.

The LDS Church doesn’t recognize Catholic baptisms. But it recognizes that Catholics are Christian.

We’ve discussed this. Christianity as defined includes the LDS Church. Doesn’t matter that you have a private definition for it.


116 posted on 02/13/2008 1:46:49 PM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog

I ask that you not jump to conclusions regarding Catholicism and its recognition of Baptism.

When Catholicism recognizes the baptism of Presbyterians, Methodists and Baptist, it is recognizing their claim to Christianity.

By not recognizing the baptism of LDS, Jehovah Witness or scientology, the Pope is recognizing that these religions do NOT fall into the recognition of Christianity.

It is not the same as when Mormons don’t recognize Catholic baptisms. Mormons only recognize the baptisms by Mormons holding the proper authority. To compare the two views of Mormonism and Catholicism the same is either being dishonest or ignorant of Catholicism.


117 posted on 02/13/2008 1:56:19 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tortdog
Dear tortdog,

In Catholic theology, only those who are validly baptized are Christian.

That is why we recognize Protestants, generally, as Christian, because they have received a valid baptism.

To say that one’s baptism is not valid, by Catholic theology, is to say that one has not been incorporated into the Body of Christ, the Church, and thus, is not Christian, at least not formally.


sitetest

118 posted on 02/13/2008 1:57:31 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: tortdog

” Christianity as defined includes the LDS Church.”

Says who?


119 posted on 02/13/2008 1:57:35 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: tortdog

Perhaps you should read the discussion at this site and familiarize yourself with the practice of Catholics in accepting the baptisms of other denominations (of which Mormonism is not one)

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=128345


120 posted on 02/13/2008 1:59:01 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tortdog; colorcountry
The LDS Church doesn’t recognize Catholic baptisms. But it recognizes that Catholics are Christian.

If this was so (recognition of Catholics as Christians), we wouldn't see so many Catholic homes hit up by LDS missionaries. The fact is (admittedly the last stat I saw on this was 1993), approximately 75% of LDS "converts" were from Christian backgrounds.

IF LDS truly believed that...

(a) ...Catholics/Protestants were Christians;

(b) ...Catholics/Protestants weren't "apostates";

(c) ...Catholics/Protestants were part of the Lord's Church (instead LDS believe IT is the ONE true Church)...

...then we would see a more "refocused" LDS missionary movement...(they would be primarly be targeting those minus Christian ties)...we wouldn't be seeing entire Mormon-published books on a solo topic like the Christian apostasy show up in the nation's largest retail stores...we wouldn't be having BYU profs like Kent Jackson publish harsh-sounding articles in Ensign Magazine in the past 25 years describing Christian churches as apostates...etc.

125 posted on 02/13/2008 3:01:03 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: tortdog
The LDS Church doesn’t recognize Catholic baptisms. But it recognizes that Catholics are Christian.

DISCONNECT!!

179 posted on 02/14/2008 4:16:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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