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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; kosta50; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Alamo-Girl
He knows that there is nothing the non-sheep can do, but those were His wishes anyway.

If those were His wishes than God is a partner with the devil according to the reformed because it is would be a sacrifice to create a soul for hell.Spin it all you want,but it is exactly that!

I can see clearly that this type of theology would lead the poor and people with hardship to think that they are of the non elect and lead to despair.

I am convinced that John Calvin was of satan for starting this type of theology and I actually get a chill whenever I see a picture of calvin,a very evil man by his own free will did not love our Lord,but rather his own mind and a book(the Bible) to which the Holy Spirit did not lead him to interpret. He did it his own selfish self seeking calvin way

6,418 posted on 07/09/2008 5:42:36 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: stfassisi; MarkBsnr; kosta50; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Alamo-Girl
FK: He knows that there is nothing the non-sheep can do, but those were His wishes anyway.

If those were His wishes than God is a partner with the devil according to the reformed because it is would be a sacrifice to create a soul for hell.Spin it all you want, but it is exactly that!

No spin is necessary. God uses the reprobate for His purposes. Look at it this way, when God created satan did He know what would happen with him? Yes or no. If God knew, then it appears you have Him in league with satan to get satan started out. :) God is no partner with satan. God is USING satan to accomplish much bigger things. If satan never existed then it is a certainty that each of us would have a much different personal relationship with God than each of us does now, right? God's "big picture" is amazing.

I can see clearly that this type of theology would lead the poor and people with hardship to think that they are of the non elect and lead to despair.

Why do you say that? I can't even imagine a reason. :) The Bible doesn't teach anything like that.

I am convinced that John Calvin was of satan for starting this type of theology and I actually get a chill whenever I see a picture of calvin,a very evil man by his own free will did not love our Lord,but rather his own mind and a book(the Bible) to which the Holy Spirit did not lead him to interpret. He did it his own selfish self seeking calvin way.

Well, Calvin DID love the Bible. I suppose that MIGHT mean he was from satan. ??? :) You appear to know quite a bit about Calvin's inner heart and especially about his personal relationship with God, e.g. that the Spirit did not lead him. May I ask from where does your judgment come, in Biblical terms? Does the Bible support THAT you make such a judgment?

6,442 posted on 07/10/2008 5:24:10 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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