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To: stfassisi; MarkBsnr; kosta50; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Alamo-Girl
FK: He knows that there is nothing the non-sheep can do, but those were His wishes anyway.

If those were His wishes than God is a partner with the devil according to the reformed because it is would be a sacrifice to create a soul for hell.Spin it all you want, but it is exactly that!

No spin is necessary. God uses the reprobate for His purposes. Look at it this way, when God created satan did He know what would happen with him? Yes or no. If God knew, then it appears you have Him in league with satan to get satan started out. :) God is no partner with satan. God is USING satan to accomplish much bigger things. If satan never existed then it is a certainty that each of us would have a much different personal relationship with God than each of us does now, right? God's "big picture" is amazing.

I can see clearly that this type of theology would lead the poor and people with hardship to think that they are of the non elect and lead to despair.

Why do you say that? I can't even imagine a reason. :) The Bible doesn't teach anything like that.

I am convinced that John Calvin was of satan for starting this type of theology and I actually get a chill whenever I see a picture of calvin,a very evil man by his own free will did not love our Lord,but rather his own mind and a book(the Bible) to which the Holy Spirit did not lead him to interpret. He did it his own selfish self seeking calvin way.

Well, Calvin DID love the Bible. I suppose that MIGHT mean he was from satan. ??? :) You appear to know quite a bit about Calvin's inner heart and especially about his personal relationship with God, e.g. that the Spirit did not lead him. May I ask from where does your judgment come, in Biblical terms? Does the Bible support THAT you make such a judgment?

6,442 posted on 07/10/2008 5:24:10 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; kosta50; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
Indeed, man is not the measure of God.

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? – Matthew 20:15

And again,

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus?

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

[What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? – Romans 8:20-24

Job, beloved of God, and his friends had been judging God using their own puny, mortal, minds as the measure of what is just and what is not. God confronts Job starting in chapter 38 and the confrontation ends in chapter 42 with Job confessing to speaking words without knowledge and repenting in dust and ashes.

Then Job answered the LORD, and said, I know that thou canst do every [thing], and [that] no thought can be withholden from thee. Who [is] he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.

Wherefore I abhor [myself], and repent in dust and ashes. – Job 42:1-6

Man is not the measure of God.

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

6,447 posted on 07/10/2008 6:36:35 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; MarkBsnr
FK”” You appear to know quite a bit about Calvin's inner heart and especially about his personal relationship with God, e.g. that the Spirit did not lead him. “”

I know enough to turn my stomach and see the evil behind calvin,dear brother

All of the early church fathers and Saints (without exception) believed the Eucharist is Christ fully present- Body ,Blood ,Soul and Divinity in the Eucharist.

Calvin denied this ,thus elevating himself above the miracle of the Eucharist and leading others to do the same.

I believe with all of my heart this calvinism is the work of satan,fk,,and will do everything to teach Catholic's and others searching for answers to understand the evil behind calvin and his theology.

Calvin's denial of the Sacrament of Eucharist spits in the face of all of the Martyr's and the Saints - many who gave their lives for the Church and Our Blessed Lord in the Eucharist

calvin’s abuse of scripture is vomit .

I pray for the reformed to rebuke John calvin and to open their heart to Our Blessed Lord.

Good Night .

I wish you a Blessed Evening!

6,456 posted on 07/10/2008 6:18:03 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: Forest Keeper; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
FK, the satanic part is to convince people that God wished evil because that's the best God could come up with.

Oh horrors, imagine, no flood, no blood, no guts, no suffering, no repentance, no crucifixtion, no cruelty, no killings of the firstborn...what a "borning" world would that be. It's almost as if you are suggesting that God would have nothing to do!

6,500 posted on 07/15/2008 8:12:01 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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