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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; savedbygrace
The faith and worship are there in the scriptures and I continue to find more of it as I am sanctified in my Christian walk for the rest of my life.

Where does the Bible prescribe "worship?"

I can't possibly speak for every version since I haven't come close to reading all of them. I am familiar enough with the NIV, KJV, and ESV to know that all of them convey the true and complete faith in accordance with 2 Tim. 3:16-17

There is no conflict between them at all? You now that for certain? Then why do we have more than one version?

The core beliefs of Bible-believing Christians are very similar, AND the teaching of the HS is a lifelong process

Jesus never spoke of the "core" belief. Core belief is not enough. What is the core belief? It's not even a fixed entity. It's what we don't share that blows your theory out of the water.

So Jesus played the hand He was dealt by man?

Well, He could have converted the hearts and not have to go through all the blood and guts and suffering, but He didn't. That shows that He chose to play the hand dealt by man. I know this may "offend" your idea of a more powerful God, but you will have to take that up with Him.

We find nothing unusual with that, given that God chose to humble Himself to become man.

Besides, He certainly DID discredit the false faiths of many Jews

He "discredited" some of the interpretations but not the faith itself.

God did not come to trash His own revelation. :) He showed many how they were misinterpreting the truth that was always there and is still there today.

I agree. Truth is truth yesterday, today and tomorrow. The problem is in knowing what is true and what isn't.

6,335 posted on 06/28/2008 8:39:29 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
FK: The faith and worship are there in the scriptures and I continue to find more of it as I am sanctified in my Christian walk for the rest of my life.

Where does the Bible prescribe "worship?"

Here:

John 4:23-24 : 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

We are also given more clues in verses like James 4:8 (Come near to God and He will come near to you) and Rom. 12:2 (Do not conform any more to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.).

There is no conflict between them at all? You know that for certain? Then why do we have more than one version?

I never said or implied that there were no differences at all between the versions I mentioned. I mean that there are no material differences that would lead a reader to a manifestly different faith if he followed any of the respective texts. For example, if I switched today to using the KJV as my primary source my faith would not change one whit.

Jesus never spoke of the "core" belief. Core belief is not enough. What is the core belief? It's not even a fixed entity.

Jesus spoke about many things that can be considered "core beliefs". They include His deity, His resurrection, His atonement for our sins, and His second coming. There are other core beliefs too, such as the virgin birth and the inspiration of scriptures. There's no official list, but most of them are common sense.

Well, He could have converted the hearts and not have to go through all the blood and guts and suffering, but He didn't. That shows that He chose to play the hand dealt by man. I know this may "offend" your idea of a more powerful God, but you will have to take that up with Him.

Oh, I'll take it up with Him alright. :) I'll ask Him that if you are right, why did He lie to us about His power in His word. The possibility that you don't consider is that He orchestrated every detail of everything that has happened for His own reasons, not fully explainable by us. If God is a mere reactor to man's doings, then He is also a liar, according to the scriptures.

6,356 posted on 07/01/2008 11:48:21 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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