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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
Christ teaches us to love our enemies, yet He hates His?

Yes, God's only enemy is sin, embodied by satan. Remember, we are taught to love the person, but to HATE the sin. There IS a difference with us humans, but with satan it is one and the same. The love God has for His elect is an extraordinary type of love, the kind that saves. For comparative purposes we say that God does not love the non-elect, however, we all know that God gives "some" blessings/grace to all, the saved and the eternally lost. That is a "form" of love, but it is not "saving" love.

And what about Judah? Was he not deceived? And if he was, by whom? And if you tell me Satan, I ask you was Satan acting contrary to God's will?

The Bible says that Judas was deceived by satan, in fact satan entered into him. satan only acts according to his nature, pure evil. He doesn't obey anybody, he only does evil. God allowed him to do specific evil in specific places, and the final result, along with a million other occurrences, was the salvation of God's children. All of this was God's will.

6,296 posted on 06/24/2008 11:20:54 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
KOsta: Christ teaches to love our enemies , yet He hates His? FK: Yes, God's only enemy is sin, embodied by satan. Remember, we are taught to love the person, but to HATE the sin. There IS a difference with us humans, but with satan it is one and the same

Now you are beginning to sound positively Zoroastrian! Talk about meandering theology...Reformed theology says that God intentionally created Satan for His own purpose because somehow this God of love absolutely can't accomplish anything without the evil one!

Now you are telling me that Gd absolutely hates this absolutely needed accomplisher of God's "plan" and that, in fact, God created His own enemy" not only to use but also to hate! Oh boy! This is nuttier than Star Trek.

Aboslute love hates no one, FK. Those who hate God, hate Him for His love.

The Bible says that Judas was deceived by satan, in fact satan entered into him

We agree on that.

satan only acts according to his nature, pure evil

Okay, and where does his evil nature come from? Who created that according to the Reformed theology? Was it not God? In other words, the Reformed theology teaches that God created pure evil, that He is ultimately the source and architecht of evil.

God allowed him to do specific evil in specific places, and the final result, along with a million other occurrences, was the salvation of God's children

And I thought God can simply change our hearts...but from the way you write it seems He really likes and needs evil. That's a very alien god you describe, alien to Christ I mean.

6,302 posted on 06/25/2008 3:41:48 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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