[kosta50]

I will leav this one to Mark, since he was the primary "pingee." I would only like to comment on this jewell:

That can't be right since we all start out unsaved

If you are predestined to be saved, you are as good as saved (I believe those are your words), so that your statement above is patently false, that is—if you consider yourself Reformed.

If you are saved from before the foundation of the world, then we all don't start unsaved.

[Forest Keeper]

FK: "That can't be right since we all start out unsaved."

If you are predestined to be saved, you are as good as saved (I believe those are your words), so that your statement above is patently false, that is—if you consider yourself Reformed. If you are saved from before the foundation of the world, then we all don't start unsaved.

Within the context of the conversation I used one of the four different but correct uses of the concept of the word "saved" that the Bible either explicitly or implicitly uses. I listed them recently. I will again if you like.