To: Forest Keeper; aruanan
Exactly right. A while ago I posted this to Kosta on another thread: Now, as far as bats being fowl, .... My argument was that this does not offend science at ALL. Words like "fowl" or "bird" or "mammal" or "fish" are only scientific classifications, based on the whim of the scientists who make them whenever they do I know you haven't gotten to the post I already made earlier, but I will simply re-post Lev 11:13-19. It leaves no doubt that Moses counted bats among the birds.
"These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are detestable: the eagle, the vulture,
the black vulture, the red kite,
any kind of black kite, any kind of raven,
the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk,
the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl,
the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey,
the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat."
Every species mentioned is a bird except for the bat. Now, why would the Holy Spirit lie to Moses? So, that we can be having this argument 3,500 years later?
5,548 posted on
05/14/2008 2:38:45 PM PDT by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: kosta50; Forest Keeper
Every species mentioned is a bird except for the bat. Now, why would the Holy Spirit lie to Moses? So, that we can be having this argument 3,500 years later?
Again, you're assuming the Holy Spirit would be communicating to Moses in terms of your taxonomy instead of the one used by Moses. This sort of argument is of the same sort as those who say that if the KJV was good enough for Paul it is good enough for them.
To: kosta50; aruanan
I will simply re-post Lev 11:13-19. It leaves no doubt that Moses counted bats among the birds. ...... Every species mentioned is a bird except for the bat. Now, why would the Holy Spirit lie to Moses? So, that we can be having this argument 3,500 years later? On what basis do you assert that the Holy Spirit is lying? Is it because "everyone knows" that bats are really mammals? Well, as I also wrote to you in another post the word "mammal" comes from Swedish botanist Carl Linnaeus (1707-1778). Before him there were no "mammals", the same animals were called by different names. So, it appears you are putting the Holy Spirit Himself up against the "authority" of some guy from the 18th century. Does that really sound correct to you? :)
You appear to assert that Holy Spirit is wrong because it is a scientific fact that bats are "mammals". Well, what if Linnaeus had decided to classify differently, including what he would have called "flaxenbrids". Flaxenbrids are warm-blooded animals that have hair, give live birth, eat insects and weigh less than 20 pounds. In that case you would have to say that Holy Spirit is wrong because it is a scientific fact that bats are flaxenbrids. Of course, your scientific fact has now radically changed. Is that how scientific facts work in the way you see the world?
5,593 posted on
05/16/2008 11:49:00 AM PDT by
Forest Keeper
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