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To: Just mythoughts
Did I not read you write you give sermons?

Where did you read that and when did I allegedly write such a nonsnese?

Now it may make me a cultist in your opinion but I long ago decided I would no longer take man's word for what Christ did, said, or gave instruction and when He quoted one of those holy prophets that gives the holy prophet all the credibility needed to be learned in my opinion.

Your views would be "cultist" vis-a-vis the Church (for example, your belief in pre-existance of souls is rather Gnostic).

As far as I am concerned, your views are simply your views, some of them being inherently self-contradicting. For example, you say that you "no longer take man's word for what Christ did, said..." except, of course, yours.

And what is your word, if not "man's word?" You place your word as the final arbiter of what is true Christ and what is not, elevating it above all else.

Now, you will counter with the Holy Spirit inside of you and I will tell you that such is a silly argument since you not only can't prove it but I would venture to say that it is not really possible to know what it is.

Furthermore, I submit to you that, like so many, you seem to know a whole lot of the Bible, but not a whole lot about the Bible, imo.

The Bible carefully traces the bloodline right to the conception of Christ.

The two genealogies are divergent and cannot even agree on who Joseph's father was.

Now the curious thing about this reference to Jeremiah is that Jeremiah did not write this down but he spoke [sic] it Zechariah 11:12 did write the words and give not reference to Jeremiah having spoke the words

Zechariah makes no mention of Jeremiah. You are making this up. Matthew simply made a mistake in his reference [Mat 27:9] attributing the quote to Jeremiah instead of Zechariah.

Now how is it possible to live like and be like Christ if you don't even believe what He foretold

Try reading the Gospels, beginning with the Beatitudes. It's a good start.

5,546 posted on 05/14/2008 9:30:01 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Did I not read you write you give sermons?

Where did you read that and when did I allegedly write such a nonsnese?

Post 5,499 5th line down from the top you wrote the following.

If I had to provide some credibility to my sermons I would certainly hope to convince people that God chose me. St. Paul's function was to save the Church from certain annihilation in Israel.

Your views would be "cultist" vis-a-vis the Church (for example, your belief in pre-existance of souls is rather Gnostic).

What Church? Since when is studying *ALL* Scripture as instructed makes one a "cultist". What Church are you speaking for? Christ is said the souls came from above and that first step in seeing the Kingdom of God was to be born of woman. He sure preached and taught that the soul existed before this flesh age. I do not know a thing about those Gnostic and I do not have the time or inclination to check them out.

As far as I am concerned, your views are simply your views, some of them being inherently self-contradicting. For example, you say that you "no longer take man's word for what Christ did, said..." except, of course, yours.

My words???? I quoted you Scripture after Scripture, remember John 1:1 the Word was/is God from "In the Beginning" and none of us have a clue when that specific date was. I did not write one word of it.

And what is your word, if not "man's word?" You place your word as the final arbiter of what is true Christ and what is not, elevating it above all else. Now, you will counter with the Holy Spirit inside of you and I will tell you that such is a silly argument since you not only can't prove it but I would venture to say that it is not really possible to know what it is. Furthermore, I submit to you that, like so many, you seem to know a whole lot of the Bible, but not a whole lot about the Bible, imo.

Have you now become a mind reader? Not one time have I put forth the notion that I got the Holy Spirit and thus I have credibility. I quoted you scripture time and time again..... Now there are occasions when the scribes and translators down through the ages put their mark on their translations, but there are avenues to search out what the original words used to pass on the intent of Scripture. My words do not mean squat.

Zechariah makes no mention of Jeremiah. You are making this up. Matthew simply made a mistake in his reference [Mat 27:9] attributing the quote to Jeremiah instead of Zechariah.

I said Zechariah did NOT reference Jeremiah, and Matthew did NOT make a mistake saying that Jeremy SPOKE the words. Matthew at least knew Jeremiah existed I have NO reason to NOT believe that Jeremiah did not SPEAK the words. Jeremiah had a whole lot to say, some of which is in the process of being fulfilled in these very days.

Try reading the Gospels, beginning with the Beatitudes. It's a good start.

What about the contrast, those WOES, to the Beatitudes in Matthew 23? Now what does it mean "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." What does this word Blessed mean?

5,556 posted on 05/14/2008 9:36:10 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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