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To: kosta50
Did I not read you write you give sermons?

I did NOT write anything that is in the Bible. But when someone tells me a thing is of Christ I have discovered that I can through Scripture discern the credibility of said claim. Now it may make me a cultist in your opinion but I long ago decided I would no longer take man's word for what Christ did, said, or gave instruction and when He quoted one of those holy prophets that gives the holy prophet all the credibility needed to be learned in my opinion.

The Bible is about one flesh man his wife and his generations up to the conception of Christ. As well as the other peoples of this earth and entities not of flesh they came in contact with. The Bible carefully traces the bloodline right to the conception of Christ.

Paul says in ICorinthians 10:11 Now *ALL* these things happened unto them for ensamples: (examples) and they are written for our admonition, (warning) upon whom the ends of the world (age) are come. By the way Paul starts out with Moses when he says these things are written for our admonition and Moses was the first holy prophet.

Just like another holy prophet penned Solomon in the book of Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Christ said I have foretold you all things Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. Then Christ quotes Isaiah 13:10 and Isaiah 34:4.

Most people use the Bible as a crutch or a weapon. Specifically, very few live according to the (four) Gospels, imitating Christ.

In Matthew 2:17 one of the four Gospels it is Written Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy (Jeremiah) the prophet, saying, quoting Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:18 - "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not."

And in Matthew 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy (Jeremiah) the prophet, saying, "And they took the thirty pieces of silver, (the price of Him That was valued. Whom they of the children of Israel did value):

Now the curious thing about this reference to Jeremiah is that Jeremiah did not write this down but he spoke it Zechariah 11:12 did write the words and give not reference to Jeremiah having spoke the words.

Now how is it possible to live like and be like Christ if you don't even believe what He foretold, yep that would make me a cultist to discover what was foretold.

5,544 posted on 05/14/2008 4:13:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Did I not read you write you give sermons?

Where did you read that and when did I allegedly write such a nonsnese?

Now it may make me a cultist in your opinion but I long ago decided I would no longer take man's word for what Christ did, said, or gave instruction and when He quoted one of those holy prophets that gives the holy prophet all the credibility needed to be learned in my opinion.

Your views would be "cultist" vis-a-vis the Church (for example, your belief in pre-existance of souls is rather Gnostic).

As far as I am concerned, your views are simply your views, some of them being inherently self-contradicting. For example, you say that you "no longer take man's word for what Christ did, said..." except, of course, yours.

And what is your word, if not "man's word?" You place your word as the final arbiter of what is true Christ and what is not, elevating it above all else.

Now, you will counter with the Holy Spirit inside of you and I will tell you that such is a silly argument since you not only can't prove it but I would venture to say that it is not really possible to know what it is.

Furthermore, I submit to you that, like so many, you seem to know a whole lot of the Bible, but not a whole lot about the Bible, imo.

The Bible carefully traces the bloodline right to the conception of Christ.

The two genealogies are divergent and cannot even agree on who Joseph's father was.

Now the curious thing about this reference to Jeremiah is that Jeremiah did not write this down but he spoke [sic] it Zechariah 11:12 did write the words and give not reference to Jeremiah having spoke the words

Zechariah makes no mention of Jeremiah. You are making this up. Matthew simply made a mistake in his reference [Mat 27:9] attributing the quote to Jeremiah instead of Zechariah.

Now how is it possible to live like and be like Christ if you don't even believe what He foretold

Try reading the Gospels, beginning with the Beatitudes. It's a good start.

5,546 posted on 05/14/2008 9:30:01 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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