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To: aruanan; Forest Keeper
Yet again your ignorance is simply astounding. The word "fowl" denoted a whole group of flying creatures, among which was one that we now classify as a flying creature of one kind but not another

My ignorance? Dictionary.com defines "fowl" as "1. the domestic or barnyard hen or rooster; chicken. Compare domestic fowl. 2. any of several other, usually gallinaceous, birds that are barnyard, domesticated, or wild, as the duck, turkey, or pheasant. 3. (in market and household use) a full-grown domestic fowl for food purposes, as distinguished from a chicken or young fowl. 4. the flesh or meat of a domestic fowl. 5. any bird (used chiefly in combination): waterfowl; wildfowl."

The American Heritage Dictionary defines it as "Any of various birds of the order Galliformes, especially the common, widely domesticated chicken (Gallus gallus).

A bird, such as the duck, goose, turkey, or pheasant, that is used as food or hunted as game. The flesh of such birds used as food. A bird of any kind."

Now, where are you getting your definition from—that "fowl" means "a whole group of flying creatures?" The Hebrew word "ofe" means birds or insects! No mammals. Moses thought bats were birds!. The Septuagint (LXX) uses the word peteinon (peteinon) which has a broader meaning than the Hebrew word "ofe" (i.e. any winged creature). However EVERY English Bible translates "ofe" as bird or fowl. KJV, "bird" nine times, "fowl" 5; NAS "bird" 14 times.

I submit that you are making up your own definitions. Some are willing to use anything, any means, to show that biblical authors simply could not make a mistake.

5,520 posted on 05/12/2008 7:45:17 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper
My ignorance? Dictionary.com defines "fowl" as "1. the domestic or barnyard hen or rooster; chicken. Compare domestic fowl. 2. any of several other, usually gallinaceous, birds that are barnyard, domesticated, or wild, as the duck, turkey, or pheasant. 3. (in market and household use) a full-grown domestic fowl for food purposes, as distinguished from a chicken or young fowl. 4. the flesh or meat of a domestic fowl. 5. any bird (used chiefly in combination): waterfowl; wildfowl."

Yes, ignorance. And nothing illustrates it better than what you've done above: using a dictionary definition based on one taxonomic system to find fault with an instance of another taxonomic system and thinking that you've proved something about the other taxonomic system. Though it tangentially applies here, you should read "Horrid Red Things" by C.S. Lewis.
5,523 posted on 05/12/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by aruanan
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