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To: kosta50; Just mythoughts; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; aruanan
FK: The Bible doesn't say that. It says: Isa 44:24 : "This is what the Lord says — your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb...Jer 1:5 : 5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

The authors of the Bible believed that a whole preformed human being was in the "seed" and that the womb was "fertile soil" in which the "seed" grew, the way plants do. To even consider their notions of "science" as anything remotely credible takes a leap of faith, my friend. Once you do that, even bats can be considered "fowl," and the earth is standing of four pillars...

I'm not sure I understand your point. Are we to say it doesn't matter what the OT says, it only matters what SOME Jews may have believed? That would have error defining truth. Is that how it works? The verses say that GOD forms us in the womb. HOW He does that may or may not be explainable by good science at any given time. Regardless, the truth is that it is God's doing. I do not pat myself on the back for the great job I did in getting my wife pregnant. Instead, I give all thanks and glory to God for blessing us with children.

5,510 posted on 05/12/2008 11:32:45 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper
To even consider their notions of "science" as anything remotely credible takes a leap of faith, my friend. Once you do that, even bats can be considered "fowl,"

And bats being considered part of a group of "flying creatures" isn't unscientific, mistaking mammals for birds. It's just a matter of different taxonomies.
5,511 posted on 05/12/2008 11:38:20 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Forest Keeper; Just mythoughts; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; aruanan
Regardless, the truth is that it is God's doing

No, it is your belief. Your belief doesn't authenticate anything as absolutely true. But it can authenticate spiritual pride.

5,514 posted on 05/12/2008 11:49:02 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; Just mythoughts; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; aruanan
Are we to say it doesn't matter what the OT says, it only matters what SOME Jews may have believed?

Yes. Your individual faith decides what is "Bible." The Bible, in and of itself, is "valid" (true) to you only as long as it reflects your pre-existing faith. It's classic solipsism.

5,515 posted on 05/12/2008 11:52:44 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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