Come on, FK, let's not be silly. :) Everything that has to do with us and God has to do with the "spirit," which has to do with how moral, virtuous, forgiving, merciful, etc. we are. Our bilogical functions (unless we willingly allow them to counter those moral qualities mentioned above) are irrelevant.
You are born because the laws of nature (which we believe God instituted) expell the product. It happens in all mammals after a genstational period specific to each species, not just to humans.
We are born because men and women get together for various reasons and engage in reporudctive activities. Here, again, the intent can be either a blesisng or damnation (leaving it up to us), and the product that results can be the product of love or the product of lust; it can cherrished or it can be rejected; it can be cared for or dumped.
Even natural laws get involved here: spontaneous abortions (because of erroneous genetic conjunction during fertilization result in nonviavble product), as many as one in five prgnancies.
But most of what happens to us is our doing.
I will NOT dispute this statement. As the Heavenly Father told Jeremiah that 'Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." To know someone before birth in this flesh body means the soul has a history, it cannot be a figment of imagination. Same as with what is said about Jacob and Esau before either ever having been born in flesh bodies to do good or evil, Jacob I loved but Esau I hated.
So it stands to reason that who we are in the flesh is a reflection upon who we were in the first heaven/earth age (IIPeter 3: whole chapter), wherein there were no flesh humans. But in that demonstrated transfigured body of Moses and Elijah. Flesh eyes cannot see in that dimension unless an act of the Heavenly Father gives sight. Say like the example given to us when Elisha prayed in response to the servant in fear when he saw the host compassed the city. IIKings 6:14-17. And reason why Paul speaks of predestination before the foundation of this world (age). And for the perfection of all justice and fairness to alll souls all would be required to pass through this flesh age to have opportunity to see the Kingdom of God as Christ so stated.
Come on, FK, let's not be silly. :) Everything that has to do with us and God has to do with the "spirit," which has to do with how moral, virtuous, forgiving, merciful, etc. we are. Our biological functions (unless we willingly allow them to counter those moral qualities mentioned above) are irrelevant.
Don't look at me, you just saw me quote JMT in my last post. I am fully willing to wait for more information, but I hope you can understand where my questions were coming from. :)
You are born because the laws of nature (which we believe God instituted) expel the product. It happens in all mammals after a gestational period specific to each species, not just to humans.
The Bible doesn't say that. It says:
Isa 44:24 : "This is what the Lord says — your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the Lord, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, ...
Jer 1:5 : 5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."
I think that sounds very different from God just setting something in motion and then walking away. God is the creator of all life, even within time.