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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg
Fair enough. I just don't think that personal preference constitutes a "base" from which to witness, hence my comment

So, then, you are forced to be a Christian?

With the gift, no leap is necessary

God offers; He doesn't force it upon you. Gifts can be turned down. You don't have to accept. You accept because you have made up your mind.

We are faced with the dilemma as to what created all this. We have no proof either way. One choice is God. Those who accept that God created all this made a leap of faith. But that decision does not constitutte proof that what created all this is indeed God.

5,402 posted on 05/07/2008 8:36:22 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg
So, then, you are forced to be a Christian?

It depends on what you mean by "forced". If "forced" means anything other than using my inner goodness to be smart enough to decide for myself what was in my own best interest, then yes, I was forced. If, however, God is permitted to change the hearts of His created elect such that they will freely come to and choose Christ, then no, I wasn't forced.

God offers; He doesn't force it upon you. Gifts can be turned down. You don't have to accept. You accept because you have made up your mind.

That depends on how good the gift is. There are such things as gifts that are so good no one would ever turn them down. Salvational grace is like that.

5,419 posted on 05/08/2008 10:26:28 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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