Then why would God have anything to do with them?
Our spiritual standing with God determines that
In your Reformed theology, our spiritual standing has nothing to do with our salvation either. God either "saved" you before you even existed or He damned you.
Your "spiritual standing" is only a reflection of an already accomplished fact (according to the Reformed theology) and you had absolutely nothing to do with it, so it is not your spiritual standing.
The Reformed theology (if we can even call it that!) sees each human being as a puppet and God as the puppet master. We are brainless, mindless, emotionless, eyeless, earless, empty rag dolls that respond only to God pulling our strings and telling us what to do, think, feel and want.
Kosta: does God cause your foot to itch? Does He make you think bad thoughts too?
Dr. E: God is the first cause of all things
So, in this Reformed "theology" God gives you bad thoughts? Does He make you sin too? Does He make your foot itch just to see you scratch it? Is that the purpose?
Or when people get sick. Does God make people sick? One out of four or five pregnancies end up in spontaneous abortion. Is that God "changing" His mind?
If you don't understand the Scriptures, it's certainly not my job to give you new eyes or new ears
The sentiment is the same in reverse. So, when you say that "God made us" what exactly do you mean? Is God's hand involved in the very mechanics of conception? And does He create a soul at that moment or does He pull the pre-fabricated soul form His (Heaven/Hell) shelf?
Certainly, then, the Reformed must believe the souls are pre-fabricated (which is a pagan, Jewish, and Gnostic belief). If +Paul believed that too, then we know where that came from. But that's not what the Church ever taught.
I believe it.
In your Reformed theology, our spiritual standing has nothing to do with our salvation either.
In Reformed theology, as Scripture tells us, our "spiritual standing" is a result of our salvation by Christ, not the cause of it.
Somehow you believe you earn your salvation by your actions, while Bible-believing Christians know that salvation is by unmerited grace through faith in Christ.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." -- Romans 4:4-5"Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Faith, like all good things, is a gift from God. Saved by grace through faith in Christ.
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost" -- Titus 3:5
And now I fully expect you to rebute the word of God by saying Paul was a gnostic and why should you believe Paul?
And all I can say to that is --
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." -- John 10:26-29 "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.