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To: Gamecock; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; Quix; wmfights; Forest Keeper; WileyPink; ScubieNuc; ...
If you really say you love God with all your heart and your neighbor as your self you don't need Christ. You trust your ability to love God with ALL YOU HEART I put my trust in Christ who fulfilled that law perfectly and imputed that love to me.

AMEN!!!

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." -- 1 John 1:8

I ask my RC friends who they would rather be employed by? A boss or a father?

A man labors for a boss to please him and get a paycheck. A man labors for his father because his father loves him.

One is recompense; the other gratitude and love.

"Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." -- Romans 4:4-5


526 posted on 01/30/2008 8:50:34 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
A man labors for a boss to please him and get a paycheck. A man labors for his father because his father loves him.

Amen!

When I describe the role of works in the Christian's life I take those who are parents to the image of a Kindergarten open house. As you look along the walls you see really bad art drawn by the kids, it does nothing for you until you see your own child's handiwork and it is absolutely beautiful. Your child is thrilled to give it to you. Is it really beautiful or is it pleasing because your child child drew it?

It's the same with God. Everyone's work is filthy rags until they perform those works out of a loving response to the free grace God has poured over them. Then, and only then, is it pleasing. And now the work we offer up to a loving Father is in love and gratitude instead of a pathetic bribe attempting to placate a wrathful judge.

532 posted on 01/30/2008 9:19:45 AM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every mega-church pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***I ask my RC friends who they would rather be employed by? A boss or a father?

A man labors for a boss to please him and get a paycheck. A man labors for his father because his father loves him.

One is recompense; the other gratitude and love.***

More family in business together either bankrupts or fails in other ways than is the norm. Have you experience in real life outside these forums and the Presbyterian Churches (and whichever others you may church hop to)? I know what you are trying to say, but, believe me, I perceive posts if writtne by one divorced from real life.

The ideal answer should be that a man would go into business with his father because he loves him. The answer in real life is the opposite.


606 posted on 01/30/2008 4:39:41 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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