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To: kosta50; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
No, FK. Your theology teaches that God created man in order for him to commit sin and change his nature so all generations can be evil!

LOL! No, that isn't what we teach, that's what you want to hear. I suppose the Apostolic God just got caught with His pants down when Adam and Eve decided to sin. :)

You don't even pray on your own, but because God predestined you to pray.

My DESIRE is not to do anything without God, i.e., on my own.

5,075 posted on 04/22/2008 11:06:09 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper
My DESIRE is not to do anything without God, i.e., on my own.

Amen!

"I will abide in thy tabernacle for ever: I will trust in the covert of thy wings. Selah." -- Psalm 61:4

5,076 posted on 04/22/2008 11:26:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Forest Keeper; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg

Kosta: No, FK. Your theology teaches that God created man in order for him to commit sin and change his nature so all generations can be evil!

FK: LOL! No, that isn't what we teach, that's what you want to hear

Oh, pardon me. Is it not the Reformed teaching that God predestined them to sin? Was it not the will of the Reformed God that they sin? Was it not the purpose of the reformed God's creation of Adam and Eve that they sin? Did they have a choice (according to the Reformed theology)? Yet, somehow despite all that, it was they who willed their own sin! LOL indeed!

I suppose the Apostolic God just got caught with His pants down when Adam and Eve decided to sin

No, He knew that they would sin, but it wasn't His decision, desire or doing. It is essential for true love that man come to God freely and not be forced, even if that freedom carries the peril (for man) to wonder away from God. Those who come to God do so in pure heart. They are not forced or preprogrammed, or tricked, or hypnotized, or brainwashed.

Kosta: You don't even pray on your own, but because God predestined you to pray.

My DESIRE is not to do anything without God, i.e., on my own

How do you know that is your desire when you and all the Reformed claim that God changed your heart (without your consent), and the Holy Spirit hijacked your mind and soul?

5,082 posted on 04/23/2008 4:46:40 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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