Christ did not dignify demands for signs, nor will I dignify demands for signs.
Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Matthew 4:5-7
Moreover, of all the signs, the vital one all Christians receive is being reborn in the Spirit.
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things? John 3:5-12
But you have excluded that sign on that very principle - i.e. that it is an experience, a symptom, not outwardly visible to you as the observer or measure of God.
But, man is not the measure of God.
The anti-Christ, anti-God, atheist activists demand the same thing you demand Gods copyright notice, a bag of M&Ms. Or as you once demanded Gods caller ID.
Ironically, all these demands will indeed one day be met but it will not be pleasant nor in time for man to be the measure of God and thus save himself. (emphasis mine)
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth [in] righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Surely, shall [one] say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: [even] to him shall [men] come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory. Isaiah 45:20-25
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:8
Oh, baloney! Mark 16:17-18 quotes Christ as promising signs as evidence of the believers. You are cherry picking because what St. Mark says doesn't fit. Are you saying what St. Mark is saying is a lie? Actually, that part of his Gospel does not appear in older manuscripts; are you going to admit that this was a forgery then?
And that proves what? Your testimony is just that. Your word.
I thought all of scripture is equally important because all of ti is the word of God. Who says what is vital and what isn't? I am asking you again, is St. Mark's quote of Jesus promising signs as evidence of the believers a lie or not?
You are dancing around the hot milk, cherry-picking verses as if that is going to invalidate what it says in Mark 16:17-18, which is as clear as it can be that Christ promises visible sings of the believers as part of the great commission.
But you have excluded that sign on that very principle - i.e. that it is an experience, a symptom, not outwardly visible to you as the observer or measure of God. I have not exlcudeed anything. I am asking you if you have the visible signs Christ promised will be evident in believers?
The anti-Christ, anti-God, atheist activists demand the same thing you demand Gods copyright notice, a bag of M&Ms. Or as you once demanded Gods caller ID.
So, now you are callinhg me anti-Christ because you can't prove ythat your testiromony is anything but a feleing and the fact that you can reconcile Mark 16:17-18 with being a believer?
Who died and left you to judge?
Very, very good post. Thank you very much. You said it a lot better than I could.