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To: Forest Keeper

***No, God’s plan never failed. Everything that happened did so exactly according to design.***

Planning? God is out of time and space. A plan is designed over time through space.

***God does not have “afterthoughts”. He is omnipotent and omniscient.***

Very true, but how would you reconcile the Reformed theology of all men being frogmarched when God spent the entire OT and most of the New failing to get the Jews to accept the Messiah?


1,571 posted on 02/07/2008 5:03:10 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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Mark to FK: Planning? God is out of time and space. A plan is designed over time through space.

You picked up on this oxymoron too! He sdoesn't have to plan as he should know what we will do and how we weill end base don our choices. Otherwise He would be a micormanaging soccer mom.

FK: God does not have “afterthoughts”. He is omnipotent and omniscient.

Gen 6:6 seems to suggest otherwise.

1,589 posted on 02/07/2008 9:52:09 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; wmfights
Planning? God is out of time and space. A plan is designed over time through space.

What? So you are going to define "plan" in human terms so you can say that it doesn't apply to God? What is your evidence that says that God CANNOT plan because it takes time to plan? How do you know God cannot plan outside of time? And, besides all the scripture you have been showed clearly evidencing that God has a plan and purpose for all of us that He intends to execute, what is your alternative position? Does history unfold randomly? If God does not have a plan then He cannot be in control.

FK: ***God does not have “afterthoughts”. He is omnipotent and omniscient.***

Very true, but how would you reconcile the Reformed theology of all men being frogmarched when God spent the entire OT and most of the New failing to get the Jews to accept the Messiah?

Well, there is no need to reconcile because God did not fail. However, it does not surprise me that you bring it up since God is portrayed as a colossal failure in many endeavors in Apostolic thought. I have never understood that view, but I suppose that it probably relates to God's need for the Church to bail Him out when He gets into trouble. :)

As the Bible tells us, God will have mercy on whom He will have mercy. Not one person more or one person less, according to whom He had chosen from before the foundations.

1,825 posted on 02/09/2008 10:41:39 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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