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To: Terriergal
Maybe Osteen simply chooses love over hate.
3 posted on 01/04/2008 2:23:29 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Maybe Osteen simply chooses love over hate.

Yeah maybe. Or maybe you just don't understand the real definiton of hate.

Saying Mormons aren't Christians isn't saying you hate them.

Let's just see some of what the Bible says about hate:

" 'Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt." Leviticus 19:17

Interesting. You are expected NOT to hate people but to at the same time be able to rebuke also. How foreign to the church today~!

And for some positive examples of hating - hating iniquity, falsehood, unbelief, and opposition to the true God:

Exodus 18:21 "Furthermore, you shall select out of all the people able men who fear God, men of truth, those who hate dishonest gain;

Deuteronomy 12:31 " You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.

Deuteronomy 16:22 " You shall not set up for yourself a sacred pillar which the LORD your God hates.

Psalm 5:5 The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;You hate all who do iniquity.

Psalm 11:5 The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked,And the one who loves violence His soul hates.

Psalm 26:5 I hate the assembly of evildoers,And I will not sit with the wicked.

Psalm 31:6 I hate those who regard vain idols,But I trust in the LORD.

Psalm 45:7 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;Therefore God, Your God, has anointed YouWith the oil of joy above Your fellows.

Psalm 97:10 Hate evil, you who love the LORD,Who preserves the souls of His godly ones;He delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

Psalm 101:3 I will set no worthless thing before my eyes;I hate the work of those who fall away;It shall not fasten its grip on me.

Psalm 119:104 From Your precepts I get understanding;Therefore I hate every false way.

Psalm 119:113 [ S Samekh. ] I hate those who are double-minded,But I love Your law.

Psalm 119:128 Therefore I esteem right all Your precepts concerning everything,I hate every false way.

Psalm 119:163 I hate and despise falsehood,But I love Your law.

Psalm 139:20b-22 Your enemies take Your name in vain. Do I not hate those who hate You, O LORD? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You? I hate them with the utmost hatred; They have become my enemies.

Prov 6:16 There are six things which the LORD hates,

Proverbs 8:13 "The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; Pride and arrogance and the evil wayAnd the perverted mouth, I hate.

Proverbs 13:5 A righteous man hates falsehood,But a wicked man acts disgustingly and shamefully.

Proverbs 15:27 He who profits illicitly troubles his own house,But he who hates bribes will live.

Proverbs 28:16 A leader who is a great oppressor lacks understanding,But he who hates unjust gain will prolong his days.

Ecclesiastes 3:8 A time to love and a time to hate;A time for war and a time for peace.

Isaiah 1:14 "I hate your new moon festivals and your appointed feasts,They have become a burden to Me;I am weary of bearing them.

Isaiah 61:8 For I, the LORD, love justice,I hate robbery in the burnt offering;And I will faithfully give them their recompenseAnd make an everlasting covenant with them.

Jeremiah 12:8"My inheritance has become to Me Like a lion in the forest; She has roared against Me; Therefore I have come to hate her.

Jeremiah 44:4 'Yet I sent you all My servants the prophets, again and again, saying, "Oh, do not do this abominable thing which I hate."

And one last one so that you know not to look at outward appearances but examine every man's teaching in light of all of Scripture:

Psalm 81:15 " Those who hate the LORD would pretend obedience to Him,And their time of punishment would be forever.

8 posted on 01/04/2008 2:57:45 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Amen, Brad. I saw that show and if I recall correctly, he claims he knows nothing about Mormonism (he needs to brush up) and he refuses to judge whether Mitt Romney has a relationship with Christ or not. People love, especially here, to bash everything he says. I’ve been receiving his daily devotions from Vision and they’re wonderful. He’s an encourager and he uses scripture, etc. to back it up. He’s not the horrible preacher people think he is.


11 posted on 01/04/2008 4:07:17 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Video Challenges Public Misperceptions,
Explains Myths vs. Reality:

http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ae11627d59eec010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD


33 posted on 01/04/2008 9:35:26 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Maybe Osteen simply chooses love over hate.

Or maybe he's just trying to expand his business. But there I go being cynical again...

52 posted on 01/04/2008 11:05:39 PM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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To: Brad from Tennessee; Terriergal
Maybe Osteen simply chooses love over hate.

Yes but what does he love? You can either love the darkness or the light but you can't love both.

61 posted on 01/05/2008 3:25:42 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Maybe Osteen simply chooses love over hate.”

Everyone is expected to choose love over hate, and most of us fail at this at one time or another.

It is totally another thing to ignore the truth for the sake of a false “peace.”

This is not “love” at all.

Love does not deny truth.


69 posted on 01/05/2008 8:38:17 AM PST by Scotswife
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