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Those making war on Christmas have a Fifth Column.
1 posted on 12/29/2007 11:27:41 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple
Group calls for end to Christmas Culture wars

OK - you first ;'}
2 posted on 12/29/2007 11:34:30 AM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: stan_sipple
Christmas marks a season of hope, peace and the light of justice illuminating the dark corners of our world

Yes it does.

But it's really about the birth of the Savior of mankind (peoplekind?)and there are a Whole lot of people who don't know Him.

3 posted on 12/29/2007 11:37:32 AM PST by PROCON (Hillary '08)
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To: stan_sipple
hope, peace and the light of justice

all of course are the products of struggle, contention, battle, sacrifice.

No, we can't all just get along; at least not with our enemies.

4 posted on 12/29/2007 11:40:19 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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What a crock! The secular PC crowd started this war and now we are suppose to kiss and let bygones be bygones, hell no!!


6 posted on 12/29/2007 11:53:52 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: stan_sipple
Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good

Took a while to get to the name of the group. We need more groups doing what we're supposed to be doing anyway.

7 posted on 12/29/2007 11:54:28 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good

Social justice, National Council of Bishops - Yep, the lefty part of the Church, listen to them!


10 posted on 12/29/2007 12:13:28 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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See the guilty parties here: The expected collection of Jesuits, aging baby boomer nuns with ambiguous hair styles, etc.

http://www.catholicsinalliance.org/cacg/catholic-commentators/


12 posted on 12/29/2007 12:33:50 PM PST by PAR35
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I actually think that some Christians believe that the church grows best when Christians are persecuted.

“Ah, the good old days.”

Looney.


14 posted on 12/29/2007 12:35:47 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: stan_sipple

“Looney.”

Sorry — no disrespect to the Common Loon intended.


15 posted on 12/29/2007 12:36:25 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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Ever notice that only ONE side is ever called upon to stop fighting? Ever notice that it is ALWAYS the same side?


17 posted on 12/29/2007 12:40:38 PM PST by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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I’ve decided that next year, instead of fighting about “Merry Christmas,” Christians need to start answering “Happy Holidays” with “Happy Jesus’ Birthday to you, too!” Perhaps that will make the point more clearly.


18 posted on 12/29/2007 1:04:24 PM PST by kittymyrib
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I'm in .... where do I sign up? At the office, the day after Christmas, one of our Catholic co-workers posed the question: "How were your holidays?" I lost it! "Don't you mean - 'How was your Christmas' I retorted. "Yesterday was Christmas. Everyone in this office is Christian and the 'holliday' we all celebrated was Christmas. Channukah ended weeks ago and none of us celebrates Kwanzaa. That leaves only one 'holiday' - Christmas"!

Enough of this nonsense. I'm sick of hearing Happy Holidays - which, much to my great surprise, now encompasses Thanksgiving and News Year - both non-sectarian feasts. Sign me up!

20 posted on 12/29/2007 2:58:30 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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They’re not calling for cease fire, they’re calling for surrender. The day you separate Christmas from Christ it becomes just another cook out.


21 posted on 12/29/2007 3:03:19 PM PST by joebuck
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The fact that the simple greeting "Merry Christmas" is now viewed as an in-your-face statement of defiance, indicates that the war is in fact, already over.

Most of us missed it. It was a clean, clinical strike and it occurred while most of us were busy in aisle 6 looking at the wide screen TVs. Yes, this has been a long time in the making and many of us are complicit in its coming. With the orgy of commercialization and materialism which came to supplant the true Christmas message, the dropping of the name "Christmas" was in fact the logical and inevitable next step.

What we're seeing now is isolated pockets of guerilla resistance from those who somehow survived the secular strike. They're of no consequence. Now it's on to the next battle in the secularization of this holy day; that of removing Christmas from the calendar of holidays. As the new pagan America gathers strength, look for the winter solstice or some such festival, to supplant it.

23 posted on 12/29/2007 3:21:58 PM PST by marshmallow
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Losers.


24 posted on 12/29/2007 4:23:29 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good = socialist Democrat Catholics, who want to be secular Catholics, like secular Jews.
28 posted on 12/29/2007 9:24:50 PM PST by Eva
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34 posted on 12/30/2007 5:44:38 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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If American Catholics wondered this year why it is their Christmas is losing its intimacy and signifcance and becoming an empty, commercialized holiday with the political correct crowd working overtime to erase Christ and Christmas from the nation’s vocabularies, the children of Our Lady of Guadalupe might be able to tell them.

The Mexican revolution, fomented by Mexico’s Freemasonic era (from 1800 to the present), and conceived in order to prevent children from receiving an education at the only facilities available that were operated and staffed by the Catholic Church, clearly shows a variable pattern of American masonic intervention. This revolution was waged to eliminate any prestige or influence on young lives that Catholic clergy clearly held.

In the Jesuit weekly ‘America’ appeared this summary: “Always an American hates to say it. there was the sinister Power of the north, meddling always, offically and unoffically.” Joel Poinsett, American Minister, introduced the York Rite of Masonry, and kept the Mexicans fighting over it for a dozen years. Later, President Polk made an agreement with Santa Ana to fight a fake war—which we call the ‘Mexican War’—with our forces, in return for some millions of dollars. After our Civil War, General Sheridan allowed Juarez to ‘steal’ American Army stores, and conquer his enemies with them. In our time, Bryan and Wilson by as dark a piece of double-dealing and treachery as history can show, put Carraza into power—and the fruits are being reaped by their policy today.

The project was already one hundred years old by 1917, and because the Faith was still flourishing in Mexico, the Masonic crusade in that year took on a fresh impetus. With no less an adviser than Lenin himself, the Carranza crowd (creatures of Woodrow Wilson) drafted a new constitution. Detailed oppression of the Catholic Church became the supreme law of the land. The 1917 constitution forbade the church to own any property, to conduct schools, to preach to the unbaptized natives, to train additional priests. It confirmed the prohibition against religious garb for priests and nuns, and further provided that the government of each Mexican state should decide how many priests it thought it needed; these would be ‘licensed,’ and all others expelled.

Father Pablo Garcia de Jesus Maria: priests of Aguascalientes, seized by the police for giving absolution to a dying man was a typical fatality. HE was pummeled with rifles, his hands were smashed, his tongue cut out; finally he was ordered into exicle and put on a train where he died.

Seventeen priests of Mexico City: shot by a firing squad. Though many of them were not killed by the volley, their bodies were all thrown into a long trench and buried.

Jose Farfan: an aged shopkeeper was told to remove from his window a placard reading, “Christ lives! Christ reigns!” He refused and was shot down in his store.

A twelve-year-old boy of Guadalajara: arrested for distributing Catholic leaflets. He was tortured to tell the name of his director, but urged on by his mother (”Say nothing, my son, Our Lord will give you heaven for your constancy.”), the boy kept silence. The soldiers twisted both his arms till they broke, and he died.

Father Sabas Reyes: parish priest of Tolatlan. He was hung by his wrists from the portico of his church and left for three days without food or drink, exposed to the scorching sun. Then his feet were doused with gasoline and set afire. Finally he was marched to the cemetery and shot.

Forty old men and women of Jalisco, discovered going to Mass in a private house were taken to the cenetery in the middle of the night and shot.

Father Miguel Augustin Pro: Jesuit priest, most celebrated of the Mexican martyrs. This almost-legendary popular hero was arrested on a confected charge and put before the firing squad, without trial, on November 23, 1927. As a supreme bit of Masonic bravado, photographs were taken of the execution. The next day newspapers around the world were supplied with pictures of the priest, standing erectr against the stockade, his arms outstretched to form a cross. He was subsequently killed by a volley fired by a firing squad.


40 posted on 12/30/2007 8:33:14 AM PST by fweingart (Give Hillary a chance. (She'll change your life.))
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JUST LOOK AT THE PICTURES!

Especially of the “Sisters” or “Nuns” !!!!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Pearls, earrings, fashionable clothes.

RSM (Real Sad Messes, aka The Ms’s of Misery) and SSJ (Sisters of Social Justice) you would expect, but OP ?????

Guess she’s not part of the Nashville Dominicans.

And poor sad O’Brien from Holy Cross College (just barely Catholic), who was whining recently in The Boston Globe about Cardinal O’Malley’s (just barely vocal) complaint about liberal Democrat Catholics . . . .

By all means, yes, lets declare a truce in the Culture Wars = by which, of course, they mean SURRENDER.

I’ve got a better solution: how about these 60s Leftover Lefties get out of the way and go stuff envelopes for the Hillary Campaign and leave the warfare to those of us who actually believe in something.


47 posted on 12/30/2007 1:02:52 PM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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