CANNONBALL!
Posted on 12/12/2007 10:35:03 AM PST by Terriergal
LAKE FOREST, Calif. – Rick Warren says he never wanted fame or celebrity, but when murder, bewilderment and grief engulfed a missionary base and church in Colorado this week, national media looked to the Southern California megachurch pastor to help make sense of it.
Whether or not there is such a thing as "America's pastor" or an "evangelical spokesman," the man called by Newsweek one of "15 People Who Make America Great" fits the bill for many mainstream journalists.
"I hate fame, but I love making an influence," Warren told WND. "So you put up with some stuff."
Some of that "stuff" is the criticism he receives from fellow evangelicals who accuse him, among many things, of preaching a watered-down gospel and appeasing dictators, Muslims, academic elites and left-leaning politicians.
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Isn’t it just a joke that he feels he needs to get ‘his side of the story’ out on WND? I wonder what kind of pressure got put on WND for this? Like Warren doesn’t get enough fawning face time by the MSM. Apparently he has figured out that when the world loves you, discerning evangelicals are kind of skeptical! Then again, Warren does enough dumb unbiblical things and teaches enough garbage that that would be enough to purpose-drive away anyone with any hunger for Biblical truth.
Don't cry for me Saddleback.
whole lotta hooey going on here.
PS how do they know when someone is not paying their bills?
They run credit reports on their members? where in the bible do you find that as a reason for kicking some one out of the church?
Translation: I don't enjoy being held responsible for the results, but I love exercising power.
They should have gotten on their knees in prayer and looked to the bible.
Further translation (maybe from “The Message,” Rick loves multiple translations): “I’m sneaky.”
YBPDLN PL Ping
I saw an episode of X-files a few years ago that still sends a shutter down my spine.
It was the story of two pastors. One was a wide eyed fundamentalist an the other a “moderate” pastor of a large church and he was loved by all.
Throughout the show we saw the usual eerie events and all evidence pointed to the raging fundie as the culprit, and if I remember correctly the fundie was run out of town and the moderate pastor was hailed as the hero.
In the closing scene the moderate pastor is sitting in his office, obviously relishing the moment. He reaches into a desk drawer and pulls out a mouse and holds it over his head. As he looks up at the mouse he suddenly opens his mouth and a huge snake comes out of his mouth and eats the mouse.
The X-Files had a lot of good messages.
LAKE FOREST, Calif. – Rick Warren says he never wanted fame or celebrity, but when murder, bewilderment and grief engulfed a missionary base and church in Colorado this week, national media looked to the Southern California megachurch pastor to help make sense of it.
Did they? (Actually go to Rev. Rick for answers, that is.)
How do you 'make an influence'?
Why do I keep thinking of the first line of his book, which ironically reads: “It’s not about you.”
Coming soon. I hate fame - The Movie. To be accompanied by a McDonalds “I hate fame” kid meal campaign with FREE I hate fame keychains EACH ONE autographed by Rick “I hate Fame” Warren himself.
Thats an apt analogy...
And who’s he trying to kid? How many times has he said he always wanted to be a rock star??
I do too. I hope he isn't being cowed.
BTW that seems unlikely. MOre likely he is just trying to be evenhanded, since this is all somewhat new to him (dealing with the purpose driven leviathan)
yuck...more Good Works/Self Improvement apostacy
CANNONBALL!
“How do you make an influence?”
Grammatical point aside...By using the hegelian dialectic method to brainwash people:
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/04/3-purpose.htm
A snippet:
A good discussion relies on facts and logic — solid information — to present a logical argument that might persuade others that something is true or right. But such a didactic discussion clashes with purposes of the dialectic group, which trains diverse minds (remember, everyone is encouraged to bring friends) to ignore offensive truths for the sake of unity. Each person must learn to share their hearts authentically, to “listen” empathically, to set aside divisive facts or Biblical standards, and to continually synthesize individual views and values into an ever evolving common ground. Naturally, this feel-good process blurs God’s dividing line between good and bad, truth and error. [See 2 Timothy 4:3-4]
As in Soviet brainwashing, Gestalt therapy and the popular encounter groups of the sixties, each person must learn to be “authentic” and vulnerable—willing to freely share their personal feelings and confess their weaknesses. To encourage such authenticity, the facilitator must build a permissive, non-judgmental or “safe environment.” Affirmation, celebration and often an all-inclusive view of God’s promises help people feel at home—no matter what their beliefs, lifestyles and values.
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